| Get on the stick... Verizon, will you start making some original HD programming that doesn't S U C K ! ! !
If nothing else, so Comcast can STFU! |
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| said by tmc8080:Verizon, will you start making some original HD programming that doesn't S U C K ! ! ! All the talk about how many HD channels that Verizon or Comcast or DirecTV have is pretty unimportant right now IMHO. Except for about 2 dozen channels(including premium movie channels), all the extra HD channels are NOT showing HD content(either original or syndicated reruns). What they are showing in most cases is SD content that has been stretched or in letter-boxed 4x3 format.
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| said by fAcEtIOUs:All the talk about how many HD channels that Verizon or Comcast or DirecTV have is pretty unimportant right now IMHO. Except for about 2 dozen channels(including premium movie channels), all the extra HD channels are NOT showing HD content(either original or syndicated reruns). What they are showing in most cases is SD content that has been stretched or in letter-boxed 4x3 format. Do you get the 100+ HD channels on Verizon (or DirecTV)? Yes, there is a lot of upconverted SD and some of the channels use Stretch-o-Vision, but just about all of the HD channels show some true HD programming. I have channel surfed a number of times through the dozens of Starz, Showtime, TMC, Encore, HBO HD channels and found HD is the rule, not the exception. (I don't subscribe to Cinemax). TMC probably has more SD (non-stretched) than the others. For the national cable channels, heck, I even seen some HD on Bravo HD and ABC Family HD. Of all the HD channels that Verizon added here last month, I think only HSN HD is 100% stretch-o-vision (and that reportedly gets fixed early in 09 when HSN fires up there revamped HD studio - for those who care about HSN).
The bottom line is that Verizon Fios now way out-strips Comcast in the number of live HD channels. Comcast may still have more HD VOD content, but Verizon has been adding HD VOD over time. Until Comcast can shut down the analog channels in each market and free up the bandwidth, they will badly trail Verizon and the satellite providers in the total number of live HD channels. |
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shark2k
join:2008-06-01
West Orange, NJ | reply to fAcEtIOUs
said by fAcEtIOUs:All the talk about how many HD channels that Verizon or Comcast or DirecTV have is pretty unimportant right now IMHO. Except for about 2 dozen channels(including premium movie channels), all the extra HD channels are NOT showing HD content(either original or syndicated reruns). What they are showing in most cases is SD content that has been stretched or in letter-boxed 4x3 format. Except you do realize that the cable providers have no control over that, right? The stretch-o-vision and non-HD is on the networks side. The networks need to get more HD content and show more HD content as well as stop stretching 4:3 shows. They need to leave the stretching up to the viewers.
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| said by shark2k:said by fAcEtIOUs:All the talk about how many HD channels that Verizon or Comcast or DirecTV have is pretty unimportant right now IMHO. Except for about 2 dozen channels(including premium movie channels), all the extra HD channels are NOT showing HD content(either original or syndicated reruns). What they are showing in most cases is SD content that has been stretched or in letter-boxed 4x3 format. Except you do realize that the cable providers have no control over that, right? The stretch-o-vision and non-HD is on the networks side. The networks need to get more HD content and show more HD content as well as stop stretching 4:3 shows. They need to leave the stretching up to the viewers. -Shark2k Yes, I do realize that it is the content providers that are putting out little amounts of true HD. But that was my point. All the boasting back and forth by the TV providers about how much HD they have really isn't that big a deal, given the dearth of real HD programming. Except for the primetime network schedules(ABC,NBC,CBS,Fox,&PBS) and the sports channels like ESPNHD & some premium movie channels, who really cares. I know some get ecstatic about a HD Food channel, but really for most people who cares.
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West Orange, NJ | said by fAcEtIOUs:Yes, I do realize that it is the content providers that are putting out little amounts of true HD. But that was my point. All the boasting back and forth by the TV providers about how much HD they have really isn't that big a deal, given the dearth of real HD programming. Except for the primetime network schedules(ABC,NBC,CBS,Fox,&PBS) and the sports channels like ESPNHD & some premium movie channels, who really cares. I know some get ecstatic about a HD Food channel, but really for most people who cares. Yeah, but it is nice to have all the HD channels available so when the HD content is put on those channels you already have it and don't need to be anxious to get it. I don't mind if an HD channel shows 4:3 stuff if that is how the film/show was shot (i.e. TBS should show Family Guy in 4:3 on the HD channel). I am more annoyed with the networks cropping movies (2.35:1 movie been shown in 1.78:1 to fill the screen). HD is nice, but I want to see it in HD as the director attended. At least having the HD channels means I'll get the HD version when it is aired.
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said by fAcEtIOUs:Yes, I do realize that it is the content providers that are putting out little amounts of true HD. But that was my point. All the boasting back and forth by the TV providers about how much HD they have really isn't that big a deal, given the dearth of real HD programming. Except for the primetime network schedules(ABC,NBC,CBS,Fox,&PBS) and the sports channels like ESPNHD & some premium movie channels, who really cares. I know some get ecstatic about a HD Food channel, but really for most people who cares. How about Discovery HD Theater?  |
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said by fAcEtIOUs:said by shark2k:said by fAcEtIOUs:All the talk about how many HD channels that Verizon or Comcast or DirecTV have is pretty unimportant right now IMHO. Except for about 2 dozen channels(including premium movie channels), all the extra HD channels are NOT showing HD content(either original or syndicated reruns). What they are showing in most cases is SD content that has been stretched or in letter-boxed 4x3 format. Except you do realize that the cable providers have no control over that, right? The stretch-o-vision and non-HD is on the networks side. The networks need to get more HD content and show more HD content as well as stop stretching 4:3 shows. They need to leave the stretching up to the viewers. -Shark2k Yes, I do realize that it is the content providers that are putting out little amounts of true HD. But that was my point. All the boasting back and forth by the TV providers about how much HD they have really isn't that big a deal, given the dearth of real HD programming. Except for the primetime network schedules(ABC,NBC,CBS,Fox,&PBS) and the sports channels like ESPNHD & some premium movie channels, who really cares. I know some get ecstatic about a HD Food channel, but really for most people who cares. It's important that the HD "channel" is there. Why should a channel bother creating HD material (esp. for those who aren't movie channels and are creating their own content) if there's nothing to do with it?
P.S. - Most movies aren't 4:3 to begin with, so that helps. |
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 badtripI heart the East BayPremium
join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | reply to fAcEtIOUs
Well the # of HD channels certainly matters to me, especially in the premium channel tiers. Case in point: in my area Comcast offers 1 HD HBO and 1 HD Starz. On Dish, all my HBOs but one are offered in HD and all but 2 Starz are offered in HD. Both HD packages cost around the same (when I purchased them).
Further, I would much rather watch a clear strech-o-vision HD channel than the same channel compressed to hell on comcast. Too bad comcast cant run coal thru their compression algorithms, if they could they'd be able to corner the diamond market. |
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Thank you. SD stretched sucks. Let's get REAL HD content. |
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