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christcorp
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join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1

reply to babbster

Re: Qwest Used FTTN DSL To Make Me Very Mad!

Obviously, we can't comment on each and every business venture done between qwest and competitors. But I do know first hand of competitors buying fiber and copper from Qwest. It's done every day. They may not be currently buying fiber directly to a customer's house, but that is so new that I don't know. But I know they are buying T1's directly to business and residential customers. Buying p2p copper between customers and a distant end. And I remember 1st hand when Qwest was reselling copper pairs to McCloud USA at BELOW wholesale costs. So I know it can/has been done.

Now, of any NEW circuits such as Fiber. IF; let me qualify; IF; the fiber was put in and SUBSIDIZED by any government agency; then Qwest should be required to resell it to it's competitors at whatever the regulated price is. IF; however; Qwest paid 100% for the fiber installation; then they shouldn't be forced to resell it if they don't want to. We don't have any fiber to the home for residential service. But there is fiber to many commerical locations. And resellers can buy from Qwest and resell. I have a vendor who specifically buys and sells T1, DS3, etc... All bought from Qwest and the other ILECs in the state. But if Qwest is holding out reselling their RESIDENTIAL services, and they paid for the fiber 100%, then so be it. later... mike...

djweis

join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA

said by christcorp:

And I remember 1st hand when Qwest was reselling copper pairs to McCloud USA at BELOW wholesale costs. So I know it can/has been done.
OK, how much do you think a copper loop should cost a CLEC per month and how much should a CLEC pay to have that loop installed? I know how much I pay and I know how much every other CLEC pays because I've read most of the agreements.

If there are no facilities available for a CLEC to lease (never purchase, always leased) Qwest has a process to have the CLEC pay for the construction cost (Google for CRUNEC).


christcorp
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1

You are correct. And from what I believe, the prices have changed. But I remember a number of years ago where the price was below. Maybe it's back in line. That's good. Remember, even though the initial cable was subsidized when put in, it's the ILEC who is responsible for the maintenance and service of the lines. It's not like they are maintenance free.

And if the CLEC wants to pay for construction to put in new cable, that's great too. My point is quite simple. If the cable/fiber is/was subsidized, then qwest should be required to lease it to the clecs/competitors at the established rate. If the cable/fiber is not subsidized, then Qwest shouldn't be required to lease it if they don't want to. If a clec or competitor wants to put in their own cable/fiber, then Qwest shouldn't disallow interconnect services. This is similar to when McCloud was putting in their own equipment inside of Qwest Central Offices. I agree with that. But anything NOT subsidized shouldn't be mandated to be made available to competitors.


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