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Re: [ps3] Sony
said by C0deZer0  :said by astempak :And what do you think all the sony people think about these comments when their pocketing millions and living high on the hog! They don't care till there accounts get below 10mil. HA HA HA They're green with envy about all the Nintendo and Microsoft people pcoketing and making 20 million+  I'm sure Sony is looking fondly at Nintendo's profits, but with all of those repairs Microsoft has been doing (and I mean over a billion dollars in repairs) they may be running even with Sony in regards to return on investment. |
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astempak
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Bremerton, WA | reply to pandora
Oh you know there mad as hell. The bigwiggs want the millions in there pockets, but don't want to lift a finger I.E do anywork. |
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I actually believe PS3 has made a profit as well. |
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Do the PS3's make a profit yet?
It'd be tough to pocket $10 million on a system which is produced at a loss. Even if it were profitable, the PS3 is the least successful in terms of sales of the 3 current major systems.
Are you saying the people who run Sony are content producing the least successful current generation system?
I'm not sure, but the PS2 may still outsell the PS3.
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said by astempak :And what do you think all the sony people think about these comments when their pocketing millions and living high on the hog! They don't care till there accounts get below 10mil. HA HA HA They're green with envy about all the Nintendo and Microsoft people pcoketing and making 20 million+ |
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astempak
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And what do you think all the sony people think about these comments when their pocketing millions and living high on the hog! They don't care till there accounts get below 10mil. HA HA HA |
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To try and keep this as short and sweet as possible:
This constant revision fetish that Sony has with their PS3 models in particular should be considered offensive, personally. Perfect example is the release of GTA4. When that first came out, there were numerous problems getting it to work on ps3's. But then it turned out it was having problems with those ps3's that did have hardware BC, because R* only bothered to test on the soft-BC 80GB and no-BC 40GB units for compatibility. So already from a dev's standpoint, it's a problem because as minor as Sony tries to downplay the differences, there is still enough of a difference to cause problems. Yes, it got patched later, but I can at least attest that locally, there were far more returned ps3 copies of GTA4 sooner and faster than there were for the 360.
No matter how much you want to slice/explain/apologize/patronize, the simple fact is that there wasn't a reason worthy enough to cut BC in the ps3, especially considering how much of a selling point it was (and to some like me, is) for the console to have accurate BC for those older games that we own on disc. The sad thing is that at least around me (unscientific, I know...), many people look at the name "PlayStation" in the PS3 and automatically think that the ps3 will play ps2 games, and never bother to read the disclaimer on the box. It also doesn't help said disclaimer about how it won't play PS2 games isn't in a reader-friendly font size.  Because of the ps2, many simply expect that the ps3's out there for sale now are BC models. And you can only imagine the expressions of shock, surprise, and/or disgust by many when they have to be explained that these newer units are thusly stripped. |
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said by pandora :I love my PS3's, they are great game consoles. They are reliable, quiet and work well. In most every regard they are wonderful consoles to own. The designers who came up with the PS3 were brilliant and have really made about the best gaming system ever. At the same time, I'm developing a dislike for Sony marketing. Stripping BC from the PS3 which was already not doing all that well, probably didn't help it much. Add to this confusion with 80 GB versions, some of which are BC some of which are not. Consider the vanishing number of USB ports, the lost SACD support. Then review the current pair of of production systems which seem to be 40 GB PS3's with larger hard drives (80 and 160 GB respectively). Sony has managed to diminish what a PS3 is over time, while not doing much about the price for over a year. At the rate Sony marketing is moving, I expect in the near future to read of a PS3 with limited PS3 game support. The 20, 60, 40, 80, 80, 160 GB PS3 naming mess should have been avoided. 20, 60, ARE HIGHER models anyway
the 160GB is not worth the extra 100$
you might as well get a 80GB and BUY a Seagate 500GB Drive off newegg for 109$ |
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said by bignate :i remember reading an article on the 360 early this year when talking about the RRoD that the xbox division of microsoft has yet to make a profit since its creation. Correct until 2008. They finally turned a profit this year. |
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Silvanos
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They make a profit on the new 160 gig PS3 the others I think they are breaking even at this point at least that's the latest I've heard.
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bignate
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i agree with Silvanos. i think the PS3 division is doing just fine. they might even be making a profit on the hardware by now... but i doubt it.
i remember reading an article on the 360 early this year when talking about the RRoD that the xbox division of microsoft has yet to make a profit since its creation.
only the wii is really making bank, they were making $100 each at launch...probably a lot more now. and they sell a lot more than everyone else...i mean 2 straight years of constantly being out of stock... |
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Sony as a company has been suffuring for a while now but the PS brand has been strong and I believe it's still strong, 16 million in 2 years is not weak. Just because the PS3 isn't "winning" doesn't mean the PS brand isn't strong, yes Sony took a hit on the PS3 but they were making a killing on strong PS2 sales at the same time.
I believe that article you pointed to even said a tv plant was being shut down.
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said by Silvanos :[Everyone is laying off emoyees right now, that's not a sign of the PS brand suffering. Of douse the 360 outsold the PS3 and I bet the Wii outsold the 360 ok black Friday, a day known for cheapness?... Lets hope you are correct and that poor sales coupled with massive layoffs are indicators of superb marketing and a company that is doing great!
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said by pandora :I hope you are correct, and that the PS3 does well. However over here - » www.gamespot.com/news/6202106.html Sony seems to be cutting back 16,000 employees worldwide. 8,000 full time, and 8,000 part time. Over here - » www.gamespot.com/news/6201817.html Microsoft is claiming the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 three to one over the black Friday weekend. Everyone is laying off emoyees right now, that's not a sign of the PS brand suffering.
Of douse the 360 outsold the PS3 and I bet the Wii outsold the 360 ok black Friday, a day known for cheapness?...
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said by seangprice :They are both great consoles, they just get to the finish line using different routes. Hmm ... the Xbox 360 finish line ... what would that look like ...
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PS3 is a great Console, however I wouldn't call its hardware superior.. If you mean Blu-Ray, sure its better then the stock dvd player of the 360.. other then that, most technical reports call them very even. They are both great consoles, they just get to the finish line using different routes.
Enjoy your PS3 =D |
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Stu Pidaso
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I like how 360 hard drive can easily be swapped out with more than just three different sizes and has utiities built in to partion the hard drive so if you want to install another OS you can. Oh, wait...... |
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I hope you are correct, and that the PS3 does well. However over here - »www.gamespot.com/news/6202106.html Sony seems to be cutting back 16,000 employees worldwide. 8,000 full time, and 8,000 part time.
Over here - »www.gamespot.com/news/6201817.html Microsoft is claiming the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 three to one over the black Friday weekend.
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It's funny you say people are confused about the PS3,how it's been gutted and yet offer the brilliance of the $199 360 arcade...how many people go in to a store and see a $199 360 and know it has no hdd and later find out that if they want one it's going to cost an extra $100.
16 million in 2 years isn't so bad considering the 360 sold 22 million with a year head start.
Sony's demise might be a little exaggerated me thinks.
and for the love of god consoles are not called rigs keep that gay shit in your pc forums.
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said by Jehu :has something happened to the value of the brand? You're avid shoppers there were more concerend about the PS3s ability to play porn.  I'm not sure, but it's possible discussion of "porn" consoles may belong in another forum 
In reading this forum, it appears the Xbox 360 tends to cause more cursing.
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