said by CopperMonkey:said by woodward:No, we don't. We do not resell Qwest IP.
Huh? So... XMission deploys their own DSLAMs, cross-connects, fiber, copper, etc.? You'd be surprising me if this were true, since I never said anything about reselling Qwest IP, only using the same physical network.
OK, I see where the confusion here is.
Excluding web/mail servers and the like, a DSL connection consists of the following path elements (applies specifically for non-FTTN) :
1. Local loop- copper between the DSLAM and the customer modem.
2. DSLAM trunk- ATM T1s, DS3, or OC3.
3. ATM cloud- the ATM switches and internodal trunks between swtiches.
4. ISP trunk- the ATM trunk (T1s, DS3 or higher for 3M and above customer speeds) that feeds the ISP gateway router.
Elements 1-3 are the same (depending on the ATM cloud path) regardless whether Qwest or a 3rd party ISP like Xmission are providing IP services. 4 will be different, as it's a dedicated trunk to the ISP router. So while much of the network is the same, it's not completely the same physical network.