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asdfdfdfdfdfdf

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The key point is this.

We have been hoping for years that the industry would move away from its drm lockdown approach toward something that better balanced the interests of the industry with the interests of consumers. This is an attempt to do that. There is every reason to distrust the industry but this industry wouldn't have turned to people like jim griffin if it just wanted to play some stupid deceitful game. There is good reason to believe that the industry is really trying to move beyond the lockdown drm approach and to allow customers greater freedom and flexibility. Now that they are trying to move we have to be willing to try to meet them halfway. If we just spit in their faces then we are going to be right back where we started with an even more aggressive industry and a government even more willing to crack down. This is counterproductive to the interests of nearly everyone on this forum. Please consider this carefully.


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There is good reason to believe that the industry is really trying to move beyond the lockdown drm approach and to allow customers greater freedom and flexibility.
There is? Based on what, their word?
If we just spit in their faces then we are going to be right back where we started with an even more aggressive industry and a government even more willing to crack down.
Yeah, or we wind up with far more innovative and creative payment systems not controlled by industry giants who've proven they can't adapt....


asdfdfdfdfdfdfdf

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Based on the fact that they have turned to people like jim griffin. I don't know jim but I have paid attention to this issue for long enough to know that he is a true believer. I think he was advocating this to everyone, including industry leaders, back when industry leaders thought such an idea was insane. One can't claim that this idea is just the ploy of the industry. There are many people who aren't sympathetic to industry who have supported such an idea for a long time(such as the eff).

If the industry was just trying to jack everyone around again I think they would have turned to one of the many legal or lobbying monkeys they have at their disposal to concoct something.
I think they are realizing that their dreams of drm are not panning out, that the present standoff is not sustainable and I think they are serious about trying to come up with a viable approach.



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If the industry was just trying to jack everyone around again I think they would have turned to one of the many legal or lobbying monkeys they have at their disposal to concoct something.
Again, I'm to give the benefit of the doubt here based on what? I'm to assume the RIAA isn't going to spend millions in lobbying on this new system based on...their history of...what exactly?


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said by asdfdfdfdfdfdf :

We have been hoping for years that the industry would move away from its drm lockdown approach toward something that better balanced the interests of the industry with the interests of consumers.
you can get DRM free music from many places legally. Amazon is one. Just pay 99 cents. In some caes less. I mean jeez 30 years ago I was paying that much for a 45 single. That's $2.50 in today's money.

The problem is to many people want everything for fucking free. Nothing in life is free. There is cost somewhere.

mrvid

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music downloads is a fair alternative, protection for CDs

Yes, I purchase music all the time that way, my fav is walmart music downloads and it works great, yes this is fair.

Also, they cna come out with protected CD's (by, say, putting a code in the "normally out of range for older players to play" area of the CD disc which states whether it can be played/ripped or not and the disc's serial #). Copying to a blank would be useless cause the serial # wouldn't match and it wouldn't play; until they break though & thus likely replaced, older players that can play CD-R's would play it though.

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