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PapaJoe
Just My Two Cents Worth

join:2000-07-05
Chicago, IL

reply to Matt

Re: 3 Strikes and You're Out

The problem is MPAA would just send out warnings without proof. Historically their tactics have been very shady.


Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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said by PapaJoe:

The problem is MPAA would just send out warnings without proof. Historically their tactics have been very shady.
I agree, which is why there has to be an independent organization and an appeals process. I absolutely would not support a 3 strikes system if the MPAA/RIAA/BSA dictated directly to the ISPs who "they" felt were offenders via DMCA letters or whatever form they chose.

There would also have to be strict guidelines around what is considered infringement and what isn't.


Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02
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Oh what, a system that can be manipulated to frame a printer isn't good enough for you, huh?


Rob_
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join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL

reply to Matt
i do not support the MafIAA.. they are wrong, wrong, wrong.
i do not believe downloading music/movies/etc is considered to be pirating.

because downloading pirated songs actually would encourage people to buy the CD's if the MafIAA didn't fuck up.

we need to explore beyond what's at the top 40 play lists and allow other artists to be heard.

remember, i bought more cd's as a result of me downloading the song from napster before it got ruined.

»phoenixlabs.org/pg2/ is also good protection.

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Matt
All noise, no signal.
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said by Rob_:

i do not support the MafIAA.. they are wrong, wrong, wrong.
i do not believe downloading music/movies/etc is considered to be pirating.

because downloading pirated songs actually would encourage people to buy the CD's if the MafIAA didn't fuck up.

we need to explore beyond what's at the top 40 play lists and allow other artists to be heard.

remember, i bought more cd's as a result of me downloading the song from napster before it got ruined.

»phoenixlabs.org/pg2/ is also good protection.

-Rob


swhitney2003
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join:2003-06-13
NH

reply to Rob_

said by Rob_:

»phoenixlabs.org/pg2/ is also good protection.
I wish they would release it for Vista. I always use PG2, but sometimes I am on my laptop which has Vista and I'm not able to.


insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

reply to Matt
There is no such thing an independent organization. And who is going to pay for it? The U.S. government(us) so the independent organization can become corrupted by any interest group or the MPAA so the independent organization always sides with them?



KrK
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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said by insomniac84:

There is no such thing an independent organization. And who is going to pay for it? The U.S. government(us) so the independent organization can become corrupted by any interest group or the MPAA so the independent organization always sides with them?
Exactly. So the three strikes thing should be struck down.

OR should have a clause that says the MAFIAA has to pay any wrongly accused/mistaken notification victim say $100,000.

That may cool their jets.
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pfak
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Vancouver, BC
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reply to Rob_

said by Rob_:

»phoenixlabs.org/pg2/ is also good protection.
Using PeerGuardian is the equivalent of putting on a condom and then stabbing yourself with a bunch of HIV-infected needles.
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raythompsontn

join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
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reply to PapaJoe

said by PapaJoe:

The problem is MPAA would just send out warnings without proof. Historically their tactics have been very shady.
So why not just send three DMCA takedown notices to the MPAA's ISP? The ISP would have to shut them down as they could not make exceptions "just because".


C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL

reply to KrK

said by KrK:

OR should have a clause that says the MAFIAA has to pay any wrongly accused/mistaken notification victim say $100,000,000.

That may cool their jets.
You need to add a few more zeros to that figure before they will be more cautious, bub.

Rob_
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join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL

reply to pfak
this has mixed reviews but it's better then nothing!


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