DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | reply to Joe12345678
Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use
they need a bigger cap
at 50Mbit/sec you could use 250GB in one day
50/8(bit byte conversion)*60sec*60min*24hours/1024=527.34375
then *28(shortest month)/1024=14TB
so ya the cap is to low |
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swhitney2003
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| How much total you can download is irrelevant to the types of things you do on the internet. Having 50mbps doesn't mean you can now download 14TB, it just means you can get your content faster. .1% of customers are 'affected' by this cap, meaning people with 50mbps probably wont be downloading any more than they would with 6mbps. |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | well thats just lame you pay more and get only responsiveness
how about this you can put gas in your car and pay taxes and you may only drive 200miles a month
oh well they'll learn someday how truely lame the CAPs are |
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dadkins
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| reply to swhitney2003
said by swhitney2003  :How much total you can download is irrelevant to the types of things you do on the internet. Having 50mbps doesn't mean you can now download 14TB, it just means you can get your content faster. .1% of customers are 'affected' by this cap, meaning people with 50mbps probably wont be downloading any more than they would with 6mbps. Some people think they are buying a OC line for $50-$60(or $130) per month.
They forget all too quickly(or don't understand) what residential means. 
I have gone from 1.5mbps to 16mbps and still consume ~30GB per month... my downloads just finish WAY faster.
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swhitney2003
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Your analogy makes no sense. Does not relate to this at all. Having a ferrari and an aveo is a better comparison. You can get to work a lot faster (neglecting speed limits) in the ferrari, but you still travel the same distance to and from work every day. Your MILAGE (gigabytes) remains the same, but speed changed.
And I'm sure they are really worried about these truly lame caps. They take off the heavy hitters of the subscriber base, make more money off them, and the overall crowd is actually unaffected. Yea, they are in a horrible position with them. Considering almost every other provider has caps, Comcast has been one of the most generous in terms of available bandwidth. |
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dadkins
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| reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix :well thats just lame you pay more and get only responsiveness how about this you can put gas in your car and pay taxes and you may only drive 200miles a month oh well they'll learn someday how truely lame the CAPs are That would be similar to metered billing.
Use as much as you want and pay accordingly.
Drive til you drop if you will...
I welcome something like this - my bill would probably be less than $10 per month! 
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swhitney2003
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| said by dadkins :I welcome something like this - my bill would probably be less than $10 per month! One can only hope that becomes the case. The majority of households probably use about the same as you (30GB). I would think Comcast would price accordingly so that they made the same or more off of customers if a change happened. Also a flat rate of $10 is probably going to be charged just for a connection, then on top of the the throughput used. We can dream, right? If this model ever came around I would surely cut back drastically on my downloading. |
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | reply to dadkins
Some companies think that internet content is designed for modems. They forget all to quickly (or don't understand) what progress means. |
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dadkins
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| said by SLD :Some companies think that internet content is designed for modems. They forget all to quickly (or don't understand) what progress means. Explain the point you are trying to make please...
Thanks!
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dadkins
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1 edit | reply to swhitney2003
Bring it! LOL!
From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use.
This is an average of nearly 15million customers.
Some more, but not all that many - apparently!
250GB - I can't even think of anything I would want to download that would get me to *HALF* of that in a month!
Yeah, probably $10 for the connection and then per-GB would be their scheme.
Still... not only would my connection quality piss off people, I would be able to irk 'em with my monthly bill! 
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
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| reply to swhitney2003
your not getting it
the cap is like the gov or who ever saying you may not drive more than X and if you do than bam
(ya they have a better cap than most but not as good as no cap)
if you follow the sheep and are ok with it then it'll go down hill you just say well thats ok thats fine then one day you open your eyes and say what happened
ya theyre not hurting yet but as D3 getts spread more and more the people that use over 250 will grow and grow
your seeing how it could affect you now not what this means could happen down the road |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | reply to dadkins
you might not have noticed but I am no longer effected by the cap I'm just thinking about the poor chump that will get smacked by the cap some day and how its restricting internet apps |
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TKJunkMail
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said by swhitney2003 :How much total you can download is irrelevant to the types of things you do on the internet. Having 50mbps doesn't mean you can now download 14TB, it just means you can get your content faster. .1% of customers are 'affected' by this cap, meaning people with 50mbps probably wont be downloading any more than they would with 6mbps. But it is that .1% that is the most vocal and whining. They want the caps raised so that they can download 1000 hours a month of HD video(that they will never watch) or so that they can act as a P2P server to "show the man" how much they hate businesses.
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DarkLogix
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| reply to dadkins
it would (based on whats happened) be more like this
Speed tire price + Usage Price + Peak hours usage
so
you have your $50 for 16/2 + your $10 per 10gig + anothe $0 per Peak 10GB + non-3play service $30penalty + 20 for CDV
with peak hours not know to you
so 30GB/month
50+30+30+30+20
$160 just for a little 30GB you say you use
you really want that
the for 50/10
150+30+30+30+20+(extra channels used penalty)50
so 310 |
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DarkLogix
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1 edit | reply to dadkins
And an OC3 (basic OC line) is 155Mbit both ways so I doubt anyone thinks that
Resi should simpily mean
Asymetrical speed, no uptime garuntee, 1 Dynamic IP
(sure I skipped an OC-1 line but who would ever "Want" that)
50Mbit and a T3 is 45Mbit so who is ever going to pay thousands more per month for 5Mbit |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | reply to TKJunkMail
You forget about the ones that see what this means in the future
and see the anti-competitiveness
(my options are cable 16/2 or dsl 3/768) |
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| reply to dadkins
said by dadkins :From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use. This is an average of nearly 15million customers. Some more, but not all that many - apparently! I think the median will be a bit more telling than the mean for bandwidth usage. A few thousand folks who only check email and do light browsing can really push the mean down. On the flip side a few thousand folks DLing hundreds of gigs/mo can really inflate the mean as well. |
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said by swhitney2003 :How much total you can download is irrelevant to the types of things you do on the internet. Having 50mbps doesn't mean you can now download 14TB, it just means you can get your content faster. .1% of customers are 'affected' by this cap, meaning people with 50mbps probably wont be downloading any more than they would with 6mbps. Sorry, but do you work for Comcast? As that's exactly what they say.
This is Comcast's plan to make more $$$ by charging people for going over the cap... offering faster speeds = people will be more likely to "break the rules". Cha-ching.
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dadkins
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| reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix :it would (based on whats happened) be more like this Speed tire price + Usage Price + Peak hours usage so you have your $50 for 16/2 + your $10 per 10gig + anothe $0 per Peak 10GB + non-3play service $30penalty + 20 for CDV with peak hours not know to you so 30GB/month 50+30+30+30+20 $160 just for a little 30GB you say you use you really want that the for 50/10 150+30+30+30+20+(extra channels used penalty)50 so 310 WTF?
Dude, that makes absolutely no sense. 
Apply that same math/logic to someone like yourself who says 250GB isn't enough...
Several thou per month?
Either way friend, my bill will be considerably lower than... yours! 
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dadkins
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said by DarkLogix :you might not have noticed but I am no longer effected by the cap I'm just thinking about the poor chump that will get smacked by the cap some day and how its restricting internet apps WTF business does anyone have consuming 250GB per month?
If you want a connection without limits, get one! Duh!
Some "chump" abusing the network gets smacked - I don't see the problem here...
A bandwidth hog gets booted? Good! 
I am *STILL* not affected by the cap, neither are over 14 million other Comcast subs.
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