Firefox is the Most Vulnerable Application in 2008

Doctor Four My other vehicle is a TARDIS Premium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX ·AT&T U-Verse 1 edit	reply to matunga Re: Firefox is the Most Vulnerable Application in 2008 Now it appears that this story is being spread as legit. by ZDnet's Zero Day blog, even though it is a thinly veiled marketing attempt: »blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2304 A response from the Mozilla Security blog, which states that the study is completely flawed: »blog.mozilla.com/security/2008/1···metrics/ -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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Kiwi Premium join:2003-05-26 USA ·Comcast ·Aristotle Internet	reply to matunga Re: Firefox is the Most Vulnerable Application in 2008 Cheeze, this is getting ridiculous, folks around here KNOW how to lock & Load and people reading this BS, actually begin to believe they might have a problem because people buy into this crap, from some of the regulars here. I want to see more threads about how to help those that need it, get firmed up; rather than these stupid damn scare tactics. How about a thread on how to use email, lock your favourite browser down and tweak systems to make them secure. How about leaving idiot threads regards "How can I scare the crap outa you, with no end in sight". Get back to security and leave the "Scare small children" for those less interested in helping others. Anyway, 0.2c.
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PrntRhd join:2004-11-03 Fairfield, CA ·Comcast ·Comcast Formerly ..	reply to La Luna said by La Luna : said by Trel : The one other problem is many times he lists a vulnerability that has already been fixed and a new version released. However, never once has his post included that information. That, in my mind, is the biggest disservice with all his criticism of FF. He never, EVER, posts the patch or work around or fix, which is almost always included in the very article he links to. If he was really posting to be helpful or just informative, he would include that information in the original post. Since he doesn't, it's obvious he has another agenda, one that has potential to be harmful to those who only stumble through here, read his post and leave with the WRONG information. Not everyone clicks on his links and finds out the "vulnerability" has been taken care of. Since he knows none of us are going to bite, I can only conclude that he is purposely targeting new/inexperienced people or those who accidently stumble upon his "cry wolf" threads via some search engine. He also does not post that Firefox has an auto update feature so most users do get the latest version, not the earlier more vulnerable one. To say Firefox is more vulnerable because they release updates to fix it is standing logic on its head.
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La Luna Surviving Ashraful Premium join:2001-07-12 Warwick, NY clubs: ·Optimum Online ·Vonage	reply to Trel said by Trel : The one other problem is many times he lists a vulnerability that has already been fixed and a new version released. However, never once has his post included that information. That, in my mind, is the biggest disservice with all his criticism of FF. He never, EVER, posts the patch or work around or fix, which is almost always included in the very article he links to. If he was really posting to be helpful or just informative, he would include that information in the original post. Since he doesn't, it's obvious he has another agenda, one that has potential to be harmful to those who only stumble through here, read his post and leave with the WRONG information. Not everyone clicks on his links and finds out the "vulnerability" has been taken care of. Since he knows none of us are going to bite, I can only conclude that he is purposely targeting new/inexperienced people or those who accidently stumble upon his "cry wolf" threads via some search engine. -- 1/20/09 The Beginning of the End 12,402 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11~~SARAH BRIGHTMAN SYMPHONY WORLD TOUR
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BinaryXtreme join:2004-04-20 Sparks, NV	reply to matunga Jesus. Another post from you about how crappy Firefox is? Are you trying to prove something? If I search I can give you crap on any app but you're on a rant regarding FF. Get over it?
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Doctor Four My other vehicle is a TARDIS Premium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX ·AT&T U-Verse 2 edits	reply to Anon One solution, at least for me and others who have that capability, is to put matunga on ignore. But then the entire topic would disappear, and I wouldn't be able to read the replies that totally and thoroughly debunk his FUD. This of course is where the entertainment value of reading one of his threads comes in. -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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Tommyastro join:2004-01-18 Poughkeepsie, NY	reply to gimmick Agreed, it's a total crock of you know what.
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SAFFR0N @anonymouse.org from: 33591094	reply to PrntRhd Re: Firefox is the Most Vulnerable Application in 2008 said by PrntRhd : I think that is what gets me going, Matunga does not listen to anything we say, and just announces whatever he has been programmed to say. The whole issue is a load of crap anyway. ALL browsers have vulnerabilities. At least it might shut the annoying "FF is much better than IE" gobshites up for a few minutes.
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KrK Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK ·AT&T Yahoo ·AT&T DSL Service ·Cox HSI	reply to matunga I call bullcrap on this big-time. Firefox isn't perfect, but it's patched pretty quickly, and there's no way in hell it's the most vulnerable application out there. No way at all. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA ·Comcast	reply to De Hollander said by De Hollander : Try another browser There isn't a better one to try... Opera is it. -- Think outside the Fox... Opera
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De Hollander join:2008-12-05 Netherlands	reply to dadkins Try another browser
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PrntRhd join:2004-11-03 Fairfield, CA ·Comcast ·Comcast Formerly ..	reply to Steve said by Steve : said by Doobie : As far as I can see, matunga is just reporting what s//he finds somewhere else in the Net. I mean, this is not matunga 's own findings and spin? Yes, these are strictly news clippings from elsewhere, and any one or two taken individually are no different than other security advisories noted here. But when taken in the aggregate, a pattern emerges: * Always attempts (poorly) to imply that open source is insecure * No attempt whatsoever to engage in debate Steve I think that is what gets me going, Matunga does not listen to anything we say, and just announces whatever he has been programmed to say.
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unsub join:2000-06-21 Newton Upper Falls, MA	reply to matunga Re: Firefox is the Most Vulnerable Application in 2008 Eshh. I'm not sure if you all want to keep up with the drama, or actually talk about what this list is about. I am a bit curious as to what people do about the vulnerabilities in things that are not easily controlled through central administration. The security team at my work told me the most popular means of attack that they are seeing is though a flash vulnerability. How do companies deal with things like this?
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Trel Good Evening Premium join:2002-10-08 Hillsborough, NJ	reply to matunga The one other problem is many times he lists a vulnerability that has already been fixed and a new version released. However, never once has his post included that information. -- /chown -R us:us /yourbase
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SUMware Premium join:2002-05-21 1 edit	reply to nwrickert said by nwrickert : matunga's bias is not the issue. The concern is his intentional, willful and repeated attempts to mislead, deceive, and lie in order to promote his agenda. But aren't people overreacting? No. Any poster that repeadedly attempts to blatently misinform others, irregardless of their agenda, should draw negative reaction. said by nwrickert : And when we spend too many posts in ad hominem response, that tends to make the open source community look bad. Not if the responses are pertinent, accurate and direct. said by nwrickert : I think we would do better by simply responding appropriately to the issues raised by matunga , and leaving it at that. Agreed. So your next comment below... would you still judge it appropriate by your standard? said by nwrickert : Incidently, when matunga originally started this thread with a title "Daft list names Firefox, Adobe and VMWare as top threats", I thought he had gotten something right for a change. But then he came back and changed the title. Such is life. ??? (can you imagine matunga's growing overwhelming dread when he realized that he got it right? oops, there I go. sorry.)
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dave Premium,MVM join:2000-05-04 not in ohio	reply to matunga Regardless of the merit of the linked articles, what is the point of posting links without accompanying them with discussion?
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