scantor
join:2004-08-11
Columbus, OH
| reply to pnh102
Re: hmmm....
How about you give up your civil rights, and I'll sign a waiver letting the president go ahead and let me get blown up, since I still value mine.
The law is the law. Your hypothetical straw man aside, you don't get a free pass because you had a good reason. You risk the fallout and then argue to the judge why you did it. If the reason was justified, chances are you'll get away with it. That's how the system works. That's why torture is illegal; the risk of doing it should be such that it won't be done unless the bomb is ticking, not just because your boss is a sadist.
It used to be that it was considered a tenet of the right that executive power had limits. Liberty and all that. That's where the word libertarian comes from. It's sad and pathetic what people have come to, but I'll happily stand with the loony left, regardless of who the president is. And I'm more than proud to stand on the opposite side from you. |
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mlundin
join:2001-03-27
Lawrence, KS | I'll second that. |
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mech1164
I'Ll Be Back
join:2001-11-19
Lodi, NJ
| reply to scantor
said by scantor  :How about you give up your civil rights, and I'll sign a waiver letting the president go ahead and let me get blown up, since I still value mine. The law is the law. Your hypothetical straw man aside, you don't get a free pass because you had a good reason. You risk the fallout and then argue to the judge why you did it. If the reason was justified, chances are you'll get away with it. That's how the system works. That's why torture is illegal; the risk of doing it should be such that it won't be done unless the bomb is ticking, not just because your boss is a sadist. It used to be that it was considered a tenet of the right that executive power had limits. Liberty and all that. That's where the word libertarian comes from. It's sad and pathetic what people have come to, but I'll happily stand with the loony left, regardless of who the president is. And I'm more than proud to stand on the opposite side from you. Good lord
You actually believe the Cr@p you spew out. Fisa was set up for one thing and one thing only. A political power grab by the Legislative to hamstring the Executive office. Everyone cries the law is the law. BS on that. Don't believe me fine look at WWII. Thousands upon thousands of loyal Japanese American citizens rounded up and placed in relocation centers around the country. Oh, who was that that did this none other then Roosevelt. During times of conflict like war the President gets special powers to act in the defense of the country. Don't like it, TOUGH. Amend the constitution. Or better yet we could have had the right of Habeas corpus suspended. Happened during the civil war.
People here don't even know what's in their own Constitution. Yet they proclaim that whatever it is must be against the law.
It scares me to think that you could be that stupid or naive about this.
Then again from your own statement sadly its soo true. |
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Necronomikro
join:2005-09-01
| said by mech1164 :People here don't even know what's in their own Constitution. Yet they proclaim that whatever it is must be against the law. Do please explain to me what is involved in the application of amendment 4 to the U.S. Government. A warrant is required to violate the privacy of a citizen. The warrant was not obtained, making the action illegal. |
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