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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mr Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/1524524"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>At no time is Google streaming data as in TV over IP or Music/Voice over IP.<br> </div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com" >www.youtube.com</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://video.google.com" >video.google.com</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:12:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826110"><b>swhitney2003</b></A> : No.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  wifi4milez <A HREF="/useremail/u/1054326"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Desdinova <A HREF="/useremail/u/760620"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Hey, it's real simple: if the network can't handle that kind of traffic, fine, then don't sell it to me.<br> </div>The network can handle it fine, you just need to be paying for a higher class of service. Residential service is oversubscribed for a reason, and that is to keep the costs low. If you actually want to use 20+Mbps 24/7 I suggest you consider a T3, however depending on where you live be prepared to spend a couple thousand per month on it. <br> </div>That should explain it all.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:13:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1554612"><b>DJMASACRE</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  swhitney2003 <A HREF="/useremail/u/826110"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Get yourself a T3 line then. Residential broadband is not meant to be used 24/7 at full capacity.<br> </div>are you fucking kidding ? <br><br>go back to dial up then . ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:01:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/760620"><b>Desdinova</b></A> : Sorry, but I'm not the one breaking the rules or behaving inappropriately, the ISP is. If you sell me a level of service, I'm going to use what I pay for. If the ISP doesn't want it used that way then they have no business selling it. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:46:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1054326"><b>wifi4milez</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Desdinova <A HREF="/useremail/u/760620"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Hey, it's real simple: if the network can't handle that kind of traffic, fine, then don't sell it to me.<br> </div>The network can handle it fine, you just need to be paying for a higher class of service. Residential service is oversubscribed for a reason, and that is to keep the costs low. If you actually want to use 20+Mbps 24/7 I suggest you consider a T3, however depending on where you live be prepared to spend a couple thousand per month on it. <br><small>--<br><b>&#1050;&#1086;&#1084;&#1080;&#1090;&#1077;&#1090; &#1075;&#1086;&#1089;&#1091;&#1076;&#1072;&#1088;&#1089;&#1090;&#1074;&#1077;&#1085;&#1085;&#1086;&#1081; &#1073;&#1077;&#1079;&#1086;&#1087;&#1072;&#1089;&#1085;&#1086;&#1089;&#1090;&#1080;</b><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:40:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826110"><b>swhitney2003</b></A> : Get yourself a T3 line then. Residential broadband is not meant to be used 24/7 at full capacity.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:55:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Desdinova <A HREF="/useremail/u/760620"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>You mean the folks like me who purchase service promising six megs down and two megs up 24/7 but then get lambasted and capped for actually trying to USE six down and two up for 24/7? Hey, it's real simple: if the network can't handle that kind of traffic, fine, then don't sell it to me.<br> </div>Not the folks that purchase 6M and get 12M of service for the majority of their browsing experience.  It is the entitled few that purchase 6M and download 100's of DVDs, Blueray and more content than they can possibly consume and then share it with millions of people that they do not even know.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:30:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/760620"><b>Desdinova</b></A> : "...extremely small fraction of very vocal users that feel they are entitled to unrealistic unlimited speed and unlimited usage which do not combine together with any service."<br><br>You mean the folks like me who purchase service promising six megs down and two megs up 24/7 but then get lambasted and capped for actually trying to USE six down and two up for 24/7? Hey, it's real simple: if the network can't handle that kind of traffic, fine, then don't sell it to me.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:11:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mr Matt <A HREF="/useremail/u/1524524"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> <br>What are the ISP's complaining about. As I see it the fact that Google handles a large number of short transactions per day is a thorn in the ISP's side. The incumbent ISP's want you to pay for your connection to the internet and not use it. In this case the ISP's are wearing their pig suits.<br> </div>This is so untrue.  ISPs want to ensure solid customer experience with performance and regular speed increases.  Prices for broadband have remained constant while performance and speeds have steadily increased year over year.  The major complaints around ISP actions are from a extremely small fraction of very vocal users that feel they are entitled to unrealistic unlimited speed and unlimited usage which do not combine together with any service.<br><br>This is just more mob inciting reporting.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:40:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1524524"><b>Mr Matt</b></A> :  :mad: The ISP's are following the usual M. O. Blame the companies hosting the webpages. Users of the Google website are using the internet for it's intended purpose. Short transactions. <br>1) Customer requests a connection to Google's homepage.<br>2) Google downloads homepage.<br>3) Customer uploads request to Google.<br>4) Google downloads requested information.<br><br>At no time is Google streaming data as in TV over IP or Music/Voice over IP.<br><br>What are the ISP's complaining about. As I see it the fact that Google handles a large number of short transactions per day is a thorn in the ISP's side. The incumbent ISP's want you to pay for your connection to the internet and not use it. In this case the ISP's are wearing their pig suits.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:25:32 EDT</pubDate>
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