Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to JazzJRabbit
Re: 50mbps for 192 seconds?
I didn't know it was that hard to google in this day and age Me thinks you're talking to an industry insider who's pretending to be "new" to this whole idea... |
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davidbrown
join:2005-05-31
Toronto, ON
 ·Bell Sympatico
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said by devnuller  :That's the FUD talking. I use Internet video everyday with Fancast, Hulu,, Netflix kids with online games, YouTube and Slingbox. Never come close to caps. The world will end with CAPs is just plain rhetoric. CAP usage is better explained in this editorial by Justin(the owner of DSLReports). I agree with much of what he said but it does miss one important fact.
In the states were there are many different providers this is quite likely to happen but thats just the states.
In say Canada where we truly only have two providers this isn't likely to happen.
They work together rather then compete to keep ripping off the buyers and it had remained this way from the beginning.
For a health market with fair usage to emerge competition is needed and using Canada as a example this simply does not exist in a lot of places.
Tell this changes people wont get a fair deal. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to JazzJRabbit
And not to mention the article states they are moving AWAY from the throttling system and just going after bittorrent specifically.... |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
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said by JazzJRabbit :said by devnuller :That's the FUD talking. I use Internet video everyday with Fancast, Hulu,, Netflix kids with online games, YouTube and Slingbox. Never come close to caps. The world will end with CAPs is just plain rhetoric. CAP usage is better explained in this editorial by Justin(the owner of DSLReports). From what I read Netflix HD streaming requires 8-10MBit bandwidth. So if throttling like this was implemented by US ISPs and you were on 20MB tier, then you'd be throttled even before you finished watching your movie. The total size of a Netflix HD movie is about 6GB. The rate at which it downloads doesn't matter as it doesn't use 8-10Mbps for the entire time the movie runs. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to JazzJRabbit
Jazz that is absolutely BS |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
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Thanks. Google is easy, getting CORRECT information only a little more difficult. Try here: »www.netflix.com/WiMessage?msg=59
You'll need to login.
Basically it says a 5mbps or higher is fine. Not to mention why would netflix release technology that only, say, 1% of people can get?
So at 5mbps you could watch 24/7 on virgin if you had a 20mbps package right? Because if they throttle you to 25% you still have 5mbps. And the 50mbps plan you'd still have plenty of headroom. |
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meh37
@verizon.net
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Well, regardless, users seldom attain the rated speed, so using the rated speed to "compute" usage is always a best case scenario (or worst case if you have ridiculously low caps). Of course, if ISPs simply performed the function for which customers contract with them--namely, providing access to the Internet; then those customers wouldn't have to deal with stupid issues caused by greedy ISPs. |
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JazzJRabbit
join:2003-09-27
Wheaton, IL
 ·WOW Internet and C..
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said by devnuller :said by JazzJRabbit :From what I read Netflix HD streaming requires 8-10MBit bandwidth. So if throttling like this was implemented by US ISPs and you were on 20MB tier, then you'd be throttled even before you finished watching your movie. You are confusing speed (20Mb per second) with usage (250,000M per month). This is a common mistake. I'm assuming you're talking about comcast since you mentioned 250GB cap.
I said if US ISPs followed Virgin throttling approach then you would be throttled before you could even watch one HD movie from netflix. |
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JazzJRabbit
join:2003-09-27
Wheaton, IL | reply to beaups
I didn't know it was that hard to google in this day and age
»news.cnet.com/8301-13515_3-10078091-26.html |
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devnuller
join:2006-06-10
Hollis, NH
1 edit | reply to meh37
said by meh37 :
Speed + time = usage
Usage, of course, varies relative to how much time you spend "speeding". (Or were you just trying to be funny?)
I think it is actually a sum of instances around speed * time = usage. And no, I was trying to clarify a misconception. |
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meh37
@verizon.net
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said by devnuller :said by JazzJRabbit :From what I read Netflix HD streaming requires 8-10MBit bandwidth. So if throttling like this was implemented by US ISPs and you were on 20MB tier, then you'd be throttled even before you finished watching your movie. You are confusing speed (20Mb per second) with usage (250,000M per month). This is a common mistake. Speed + time = usage
Usage, of course, varies relative to how much time you spend "speeding". (Or were you just trying to be funny?) |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to JazzJRabbit
And you read this where exactly? |
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devnuller
join:2006-06-10
Hollis, NH
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said by JazzJRabbit :From what I read Netflix HD streaming requires 8-10MBit bandwidth. So if throttling like this was implemented by US ISPs and you were on 20MB tier, then you'd be throttled even before you finished watching your movie. You are confusing speed (20Mb per second) with usage (250,000M per month). This is a common mistake. |
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JazzJRabbit
join:2003-09-27
Wheaton, IL
·WOW Internet and C..
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said by devnuller :That's the FUD talking. I use Internet video everyday with Fancast, Hulu,, Netflix kids with online games, YouTube and Slingbox. Never come close to caps. The world will end with CAPs is just plain rhetoric. CAP usage is better explained in this editorial by Justin(the owner of DSLReports). From what I read Netflix HD streaming requires 8-10MBit bandwidth. So if throttling like this was implemented by US ISPs and you were on 20MB tier, then you'd be throttled even before you finished watching your movie. |
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devnuller
join:2006-06-10
Hollis, NH
3 edits | reply to beaups
That's the FUD talking. I use Internet video everyday with Fancast, Hulu,, Netflix kids with online games, YouTube and Slingbox. Never come close to caps. The world will end with CAPs is just plain rhetoric.
CAP usage is better explained in this editorial by Justin(the owner of DSLReports). |
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