 PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
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Re: Who cares about 3G Yeah, you post those same pics every time this topic comes up. But what you always fail to mention is you're in the only area in the country with 3G coverage all around you. Take a trip to Albany or Syracuse, tell me how the 3G works along the way.
What about folks in Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, New Mexico, or Arizona and Nevada sans Vegas, Reno, and Phoenix?
What about the rest of the country? Especially West of the Mississippi? How much of that map is purple? Not much at all. Sure, works great for you in Connecticut, but Connecticut only contains 1.15% of the US population. AT&T is a national provider, and should be graded as such. As far as the ENTIRE country goes, their 3g footprint sucks.
That's great that you get awesome 3G speeds on your iPhone. Just don't leave New England, even though you have a national provider.
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So how is T-Mobile's 3G foot print looking? |
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beaups
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Hilliard, OH | reply to PolarBear03
the idea is it works in 3g in the places MOST people aremost of the time...and if you venture into, say, north dakota, then it slows way down to the speed you are stuck with every day. And why would tmobile put caps on edge? you can't download fast enough to hit a cap anyhow. |
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PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
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said by ptrowski:Nah, those are from today for you. So how is T-Mobile's 3G foot print looking? I never said it was better. said by PolarBear03:said by Karl Bode :
But here in the States, your only GSM alternative to AT&T would be T-Mobile, whose 3G footprint is substantially smaller. I said it was a better alternative.said by PolarBear03:And whose customer service and prices more than make up for it. Even if the 3G doesn't work at all. said by PolarBear03:I just think it's akin to Hughesnet vs. dial-up. Sure, it may be a lot faster, but do you really want to pay that much more for such a shitty service?
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PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
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I understand that, but the reason I have a cell phone is so it works all the time, wherever I go (and I travel a lot through many of the Western states I mentioned).
I guess there just aren't any people West of the Mississippi (except for right along the Pacific Coast). |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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Please explain your definition of shitty service. Do the above speeds look shitty to you? |
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An excerpt from my personal wireless bill |
Some people care about customer service.
As I said in an earlier post in this thread (I'm noticing I have to quote myself a lot to you):said by PolarBear03:said by Karl Bode in a different article :even though similar studies by firms like JD Power rank AT&T as mediocre to poor in everything from call quality to customer care said by JD Power & Associates :Verizon Wireless ranks highest in wireless customer care performance with an index score of 103, followed by Alltel (102), T-Mobile (100) and AT&T (97). As far as national post-paid cellular providers go, AT&T's customer service is only superior to Sprint, which doesn't say much. Verizon, Alltel and T-Mobile beat them.
Some people also care about how much they pay for service.
I have four lines; two standard phones, two Blackberries. Both BBs have unlimited data. I can tether both BBs to a computer (really handy last time I moved and couldn't get residential broadband installed for two weeks). All 4 have unlimited SMS and MMS messaging. We share 3000 minutes.
As you can see from the attachments (I even bothered to shop for service from AT&T), I pay $220/mo after all taxes and fees. From AT&T, the same service on the same phones would be $320, before any taxes.
As usual, whenever a topic relating to the iPhone or it's 3G speeds come up, you fail to notice the specific topic of the thread and instead go on raving about how great the speed is. However, this thread isn't about the speed of 3G, but about the fact that the iPhone has been unlocked, and can be used on other GSM providers (in our case, T-mo). Some folks argued that T-mo has lousy 3G, and I argued that T-mo would still be a great alternative, even without 3G.
Yes ptrowski, you have the fastest cellular internet in the country. You also pay too much to a lousy provider for it. And that's not just my opinion, that's what the wireless bills and millions of customers say.
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beaups
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Hilliard, OH | reply to PolarBear03
I am still not understanding your point. Are you telling me your tmobile phone works EVERYwhERE in the US? It doesn't. I believe AT&T's GSM network is also bigger than Tmobile's. I will dig for some coverage maps but from personal experience I can tell you TMO's coverage in rural ohio is awful. |
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beaups
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Hilliard, OH | reply to PolarBear03
yep here is your super tmobile coverage map that works EVERYWHERE...
»www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.···s&net=we |
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Actually the thread is about you trying to downplay your lack of 3G availability. For me customer service is second to the actual service. If your service stinks, you deal with customer service more. I guess I am spoiled not having to call into them. So I guess I am spoiled with fast speeds and good service. |
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beaups
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Hilliard, OH | reply to beaups
corrected link
»www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.···s&net=we |
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PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
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said by beaups:I am still not understanding your point. The point of the article is that the iPhone has been unlocked, and can now be used on T-mo (at least in the US).
Some said that T-mo has worse 3G coverage that AT&T, and that the iPhone 3G won't work on T-mo 3G at all, because they use different frequencies.
And MY point is (that I thoroughly explained HERE) that even with no 3G, T-mo would be a better option.
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beaups
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Hilliard, OH | reply to beaups
and here is ATT
»www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.···s&net=b3 |
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PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
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said by ptrowski:Actually the thread is about you trying to downplay your lack of 3G availability. That's funny, the thread was started by Karl, not me: said by Karl Bode:Just in time for the holidays, the iPhone Dev team (who got Linux running on the iPhone) have unlocked the iPhone 3G, announcing they'll be releasing the hack on New Year's Eve. Sounds like it's about the iPhone being unlocked. As I stated before, once again you're trying to shift focus from the actual topic of the thread and make it all about your speed. Which only goes to show that the opposite could be said for you.
Even if I lived in a 3G area, I still wouldn't touch AT&T with a stick for the reasons stated in my previous response to you (you DID read that, right?) The fact that 3G isn't available in my area doesn't make any of the facts I've stated about either provider any less true or relevant.
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beaups
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Hilliard, OH | reply to PolarBear03
you did, but the other problem is that tmobile also has WORSE GSM COVERAGE that AT&T. So no matter how you look at it, it works in LESS places. |
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PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to beaups
LMAO! That map you linked to looks to be from about 2004! Nice history lesson, though.
Maybe you should get information on T-mobile's coverage from T-mobile's webpage like I did. |
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Hilliard, OH | lol it said 2008...they both looked kinda sparse though  |
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said by PolarBear03:said by ptrowski:Actually the thread is about you trying to downplay your lack of 3G availability. That's funny, the thread was started by Karl, not me: said by Karl Bode:Just in time for the holidays, the iPhone Dev team (who got Linux running on the iPhone) have unlocked the iPhone 3G, announcing they'll be releasing the hack on New Year's Eve. Sounds like it's about the iPhone being unlocked. As I stated before, once again you're trying to shift focus from the actual topic of the thread and make it all about your speed. Which only goes to show that the opposite could be said for you. Even if I lived in a 3G area, I still wouldn't touch AT&T with a stick for the reasons stated in my previous response to you (you DID read that, right?) The fact that 3G isn't available in my area doesn't make any of the facts I've stated about either provider any less true or relevant. I was reffering to your derailment as usual in an iPhone thread. Yes I read your reasons, good for you. How is their service shitty? By price? I pay to have good signals and 3G service. I would expect you to pay less on T-Mobile as they don't have nearly the footprint. Enjoy your "favs" while I enjoy fast speed. That's why I waited for a 3G iPhone. And it's nice, let me tell you.
JD Power has become whores for the biggest dollar. Their relevancy these days is laughable. Basically you pay them for a category or award.
Your whole intent was to talk about customer service on T-Mobile. Sounds like the shift was started by you my friend. Your subject was "Who cares about 3G" and I showed you again some examples of why people care about 3G.
At least you didn't turn it into another "Blackberries rule" thread....
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Compared to this. Even in your home state AT&T has more coverage. You pay more for better coverage.
Less coverage, less money. |
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