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TheWickerMan

join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA

reply to Packeteers

Re: Well, something will need to be done eventually....

said by Packeteers:

actually, there is... charge money to send every email.
And since a lot of spammers use hijacked machines to send their crap out, that will accomplish nothing.


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join:2004-08-07
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said by TheWickerMan:

said by Packeteers:

actually, there is... charge money to send every email.
And since a lot of spammers use hijacked machines to send their crap out, that will accomplish nothing.
I think its the vast majority that do that. Charging per email will only be bothersome to legitimate users.
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Jason Levine
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So you don't charge people for sending more e-mail? Wouldn't that let spammers off the hook entirely?

Or maybe you meant no charge for sending less than X messages per second. In this case, the spammers will just space out their messages. Suppose I'm a spammer. I have a zombie network of 10,000 machines at my disposal. If I have each machine send out 1 spam message every minute over 8 hours, I've sent out 4.8 million messages. As my zombie network grows, I can send out even more spam messages without triggering the "e-mail charge" system. And if I do trigger it, what do I care? The people who would be paying would be the owners of the zombied systems, not me.

Then there's the whole question of who gets the money. Charging per e-mail is not the solution.
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reply to TheWickerMan

said by TheWickerMan:

said by Packeteers:

actually, there is... charge money to send every email.
And since a lot of spammers use hijacked machines to send their crap out, that will accomplish nothing.
In order to make a system like that work, there would need to be an overhaul of what we have now. Think about it, if we were to overhaul the system and put in one that required 1/10th of a penny to send an email, wouldn't it work pretty well? Thats since we are living in "what if" land. Since no overhaul is coming, it sounds like we are going to be dealing with spam for a long time.

TheWickerMan

join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA

said by Nightfall:

Think about it, if we were to overhaul the system and put in one that required 1/10th of a penny to send an email, wouldn't it work pretty well?
How does that address the issue of spammers using hijacked machines? And that's not a "what if." That's something that's actually happening.


Nightfall
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said by TheWickerMan:

said by Nightfall:

Think about it, if we were to overhaul the system and put in one that required 1/10th of a penny to send an email, wouldn't it work pretty well?
How does that address the issue of spammers using hijacked machines? And that's not a "what if." That's something that's actually happening.
With an overhaul of the system, it would mean that there would be no more hijacked machines. You would have some kind of secure login or other means of authentication. As I said here, just thinking outside the box.

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