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Re: Yeah, that's the ticket!
said by BF69  : That's a lot of fucking people. So why do they need porn? |
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said by hihi :what should be the universal language? Internet Protocol. |
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said by BF69 :said by cornelius785 :now where to these '50 million people' (i won't bother asking where that number came from cause its pretty apparent) live? out in the middle of frellin' nowhere? it make absolutely no sense to spend an absurd amount of money on a few people when that same money can make ftth happen for perhaps hundreds. Let's see 300 million people in the US 1/6 at least do not have access to broadband. 1/6 of 300 million is 50 million. Basic math too hard for you? We need to wire the entire world not just usa
china right? only 10 percent has internet connection while in usa we have at least 60 percent so thats about 2/3
poverty around the world need connection to wire the entire globe
what should be the universal language? |
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said by BF69 :said by JohnQPublic :That's exactly what's needed to fix the current economic meltdown. We just need to beef up our broadband offerings in the cornfields of Nebraska. Yeah, that's the ticket.  If you want to have an intelligent discussion please respond with some intelligence. There's close to 50 million people or more that can't get access to broadband. That's a lot of fucking people. Yeah, and I'm one of them goddamn it!!!!! |
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They don't have access to Domino's either.
$44,000,000,000 seems like way too much money to hang some stuff on telephone poles. I smell a giveaway to fat cats. |
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said by BF69 :Basic math too hard for you? said by middleofknowhere :
Apparently it's too hard for you also.
So 226 million adults.
50% of adults are married.
So 113 million individual households.
Apparently it's too hard for you also. 
(the amazing thing is that even though his math is off, his wrong answer is admirably close -- »www.census.gov/population/www/so···007.html has 117 Million households in the USA.)
Still, the broadband reports on the subject generally compare the have and have-nots and these use various numbers and ways to say.
Who has (60-65%): Cities, Upper Income, Older
Who has not (25-33%): Rural, Low Income, Younger
And that's part of the problem of waiting for "the market" to solve it -- the "have nots" are the most expensive to reach, the most likely not to subscribe at any price, and least able to pay regularly. Meanwhile, more and more typical services are delivered on the net -- registering for college, applying for jobs, hell -- just doing your high-school homework!
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middleofknowhere
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Apparently it's too hard for you also.
300 million people.
of which 74 million are children.
So 226 million adults.
50% of adults are married.
So 113 million individual households.
1/6 of them is 15 million households.
How many of them do now want or cannot afford broadband?
what percentage doesn't own a computer?
What percentage does not want a computer? |
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It's bad. It would be a record in any day's dollars!
We have a GDP of $11-12 trillion -- so the thought of $1 trillion to get things moving again isn't absurd on its face, the actual plan ought to be considered.
When you're out of work, sometimes you retool -- you buy some new clothes, take a course or two you might need, spend money seeking that employment -- and as a result, you get that next job.
In this case, there is some make-work fluff here. They're trying to get "main-street" consumers employed and spending again. We probably wouldn't want government to do stuff like this in normal times.
But there's plenty of "we need to do this anyway" stuff here, too.
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US stares at a $1 trillion deficit. How bad is that?
NEW YORK - The US government's extraordinary effort to rescue the banking system may have pulled America's economy back from the brink, but it comes at a cost – helping to push an already bloated deficit up to an estimated $1 trillion for this fiscal year.
That would be a record in today's dollars – and would represent the highest level of federal red ink as a share of the overall economy of any US budget since the 1940s. For each household, this year's deficit would pile on an extra $8,620 of federal debt. »www.csmonitor.com/2008/1016/p01s05-usec.html
$10 trillion
The estimated population of the United States is 305,294,541
so each citizen's share of this debt is $34,835.86.
»www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ |
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said by cornelius785 :now where to these '50 million people' (i won't bother asking where that number came from cause its pretty apparent) live? out in the middle of frellin' nowhere? it make absolutely no sense to spend an absurd amount of money on a few people when that same money can make ftth happen for perhaps hundreds. Yes it makes no sense to get someone out of the stone age where they can actually use the internet at all rather than give these poor mistreated people with only 10mb connection that FTTH connection. Somebody is wasting a precious extra 3 seconds to download their porn when they could have it 3 seconds sooner! The nerve of some people!
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said by BF69 :said by cornelius785 :now where to these '50 million people' (i won't bother asking where that number came from cause its pretty apparent) live? out in the middle of frellin' nowhere? it make absolutely no sense to spend an absurd amount of money on a few people when that same money can make ftth happen for perhaps hundreds. Let's see 300 million people in the US 1/6 at least do not have access to broadband. 1/6 of 300 million is 50 million. Basic math too hard for you? Ouch! 
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said by cornelius785 :now where to these '50 million people' (i won't bother asking where that number came from cause its pretty apparent) live? out in the middle of frellin' nowhere? it make absolutely no sense to spend an absurd amount of money on a few people when that same money can make ftth happen for perhaps hundreds. Let's see 300 million people in the US 1/6 at least do not have access to broadband. 1/6 of 300 million is 50 million. Basic math too hard for you? |
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now where to these '50 million people' (i won't bother asking where that number came from cause its pretty apparent) live? out in the middle of frellin' nowhere? it make absolutely no sense to spend an absurd amount of money on a few people when that same money can make ftth happen for perhaps hundreds. |
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said by JohnQPublic :That's exactly what's needed to fix the current economic meltdown. We just need to beef up our broadband offerings in the cornfields of Nebraska. Talk about missing the point!!! With decent affordable broadband, any cornfield will do just fine.
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said by JohnQPublic :That's exactly what's needed to fix the current economic meltdown. We just need to beef up our broadband offerings in the cornfields of Nebraska. Yeah, that's the ticket. If you want to have an intelligent discussion please respond with some intelligence. There's close to 50 million people or more that can't get access to broadband. That's a lot of fucking people. |
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| That's exactly what's needed to fix the current economic meltdown. We just need to beef up our broadband offerings in the cornfields of Nebraska. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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