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dynodb
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Not entirely accurate

The glich doesn't happen any time a ADSL circuit is in the same count as an ADSL2+ circuit. In fact, ADSL and ADSL2+ are deployed from the same DSLAM- if that were true, none of the ADSL out of a DSLAM offering ADSL2+ would work very well.

It apparently occurs in a specific circumstance- when a longer ADSL line from the CO is in the same count as a shorter ADSL2+ one.
permalink · 2008-12-18 14:26:24 · Reply to this
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Re: Not entirely accurate

said by dynodb See Profile :

The glich doesn't happen any time a ADSL circuit is in the same count as an ADSL2+ circuit. In fact, ADSL and ADSL2+ are deployed from the same DSLAM- if that were true, none of the ADSL out of a DSLAM offering ADSL2+ would work very well.

It apparently occurs in a specific circumstance- when a longer ADSL line from the CO is in the same count as a shorter ADSL2+ one.
Good point. It can occur when any xDSL signal out of a CO is in the same distribution bundle as any xDSL signal out of a Cabinet/Node/SAC/JWI/Roadbox.
permalink · 2008-12-18 15:13:20 · Print · Reply to this

Deadpool
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Re: Not entirely accurate

Bingo. We call is 'spectral interference'.
permalink · 2008-12-18 16:05:47 · Reply to this
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Re: Not entirely accurate

said by Deadpool See Profile :

Bingo. We call is 'spectral interference'.
No, it's called crosstalk.

My post from the other day addresses this:

»The bottom line is this:
permalink · 2008-12-19 00:02:13 · Reply to this

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Re: Not entirely accurate

said by qworster See Profile :

said by Deadpool See Profile :

Bingo. We call is 'spectral interference'.
No, it's called crosstalk.

My post from the other day addresses this:

»The bottom line is this:
Potato, Potatoe. Every company likes to invent their own terms.
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Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies.
permalink · 2008-12-19 09:13:07 · Print · Reply to this
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said by dynodb See Profile :

The glich doesn't happen any time a ADSL circuit is in the same count as an ADSL2+ circuit. In fact, ADSL and ADSL2+ are deployed from the same DSLAM- if that were true, none of the ADSL out of a DSLAM offering ADSL2+ would work very well.

It apparently occurs in a specific circumstance- when a longer ADSL line from the CO is in the same count as a shorter ADSL2+ one.
You are wrong.
Qwest is putting DSLAMs IN the FTTN neighborhood cabinets. Their reason for this is to make the copper loop shorter, so they can run ADSL2 (which offers faster speeds but doesn't work at loop lengths longer then about 1/2 mile).

The ADSL circuits that originate at the DSLAM in the phone office have been attenuated (cut down by pair losses) significantly by the time they enter the cabinet. They can't compete with the local signals that can be 20 to 30 db stronger then they are.

I explain it here: »The bottom line is this:
permalink · 2008-12-19 00:10:13 · Print · Reply to this
dynodb
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Re: Not entirely accurate

You have no clue; I likely have forgotten more about DSLAMs than you will ever know.

Hint: It's not about "cabinets".
permalink · 2008-12-19 15:38:54 · Reply to this
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Re: Not entirely accurate

said by dynodb See Profile :

You have no clue; I likely have forgotten more about DSLAMs than you will ever know.

Hint: It's not about "cabinets".
Really?

You are the one that hasn't a clue. Do you even know what crosstalk is? How about a db (decibel)? Hint: BELL
permalink · 2008-12-19 21:55:31 · Reply to this
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