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Re: Same reason the DMV gets away with some questions... your point holds no water, if the speed limit sign said unlimited, then yes, your point would hold water, but it doesn't. Moot as it is, your analogy is wrong. | |
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| said by ANON101Bseven :
your point holds no water, if the speed limit sign said unlimited, then yes, your point would hold water, but it doesn't.
It's relative. The signage says there is a limit, but it's not the actual limit.
Your complaint is like the kid who did 90 on the 40 mph surface street. He claimed it wasn't posted. I.e., unlimited.
Same concept.
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kudos:12 | said by amigo_boy:said by ANON101Bseven :
your point holds no water, if the speed limit sign said unlimited, then yes, your point would hold water, but it doesn't.
It's relative. The signage says there is a limit, but it's not the actual limit. Your complaint is like the kid who did 90 on the 40 mph surface street. He claimed it wasn't posted. I.e., unlimited. Same concept. Mark In both cases there are law, rules, and regulations attached to your drivers license. In the case of the kid who claimed unlimited because it wasn't posted, guess he's never see a "Citywide Speed Limit is 35 unless otherwise posted" sign.
Besides, if it was all spelled out on the sign, you wouldn't have room left for the speed limit itself, much less time to read it. | |
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said by amigo_boy:Your complaint is like the kid who did 90 on the 40 mph surface street. He claimed it wasn't posted. I.e., unlimited. The flaw in your analogy is that the driver is responsible for knowing the content of the vehicle code; at least as applies to his driving. Most states are similar to California, which actually has several speed laws.
• Maximum Speed law Limit (Sect. 22349): 65 mph. unless post as 70 mph by CalTrans.
• Prima Facie Speed law Limits (Sect. 22352): No faster than is safe. 15 mph, or 25 mph, depending on conditions specified in the code.
• Basic Speed Law (Sect. 22350): 25 mph in residential areas, 15 mph in area of limited visibility. No greater than reasonable or prudent ...
No matter what, Prima Facie takes overall precedence; if it is foggy, whether the road is posted 75 mph, or not posted at all, any speed faster than that which takes you to the limit of visibility is unsafe.
There are also sections concerning the "Increase of Freeway and Local Speed Limits", one of which specifies locally established Prima Facie Speed Limits other than 15 mph and 25 mph.
If there is no posted limit, then assume Prima Facie Speed Limits; and, do not drive faster than conditions permit in any case Section 22351, titled, "Speed Law Violations", implies that the "Basic Speed Law" is taken as the overriding law.
How anything related to highway speed can be compared to "unlimited" escapes me, because the C.V.C. is pretty clear; in the absence of posted limits, there are still assumed limits. Speed is, simply put, not "unlimited".
As for Internet advertising, I have never personally seen an ISP add offering unqualified unlimited service (other than old, dated ads from the past, demonstrating that ISPs did, once, advertise so). All the actual ads I have seen in the wild have been qualified. It is not a mere game of semantics to qualify a word. And "unlimited access" != "unlimited bandwidth". My own ISP offers either "unlimited access" (for HSI) or "limited access" (for dial-up). Okay, they don't actually say, "limited access", rather they specify the actual limits in hours of connect time per month. In contrast with HSI allowing me to maintain a login session indefinitely ("unlimited access").
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