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Re: VOIPo - Now (unofficially) supporting BYOD
said by B  :Sunrocket was so far ahead of its time.  The great underrated Innomedia supports pulse dialing just fine. I'm glad to hear that another pulse-capable adapter (and a company willing to spend that extra 3 cents for the relay circuit) exists. -- B I agree.
My 1920's Northern Electric (Bell Canada) telephone was happy with SR's Innomedia. Now it's happy again with VO's HT502. |
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PX Eliezer
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said by christcorp :I actually really like the Grandstream 502 that voipo provides. Main reason; as stupid as it sounds; is that it's the only adapter I've used that allows my ROTARY DIAL phones to work. Don't ask how. I don't know if it's the adapter; voipo; or a combination of both. This converter device may be of interest for some setups:
»www.oldphoneworks.com/pulse-to-t···ter.html
They say it works on many VoIP systems, but not on MagicJock. |
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B
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Sunrocket was so far ahead of its time. The great underrated Innomedia supports pulse dialing just fine.
I'm glad to hear that another pulse-capable adapter (and a company willing to spend that extra 3 cents for the relay circuit) exists.
-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function |
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christcorp
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said by RockyBB :said by christcorp : I don't know if it's the adapter; voipo; or a combination of both. It's got to be the adapter, interpreting the pulses and creating packets with the appropriate numerical equivalent contents. IP takes packets, not pulses. You knew that! I'm sure it's the adapter. Prior to this 502 model; I had the 286 modem. I don't believe it ever worked with rotary. That adapter had some other issues. So I started testing the 502. It's been fine. Oh well. Either way, I like it. later... mike... |
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VOIPoTim
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said by erikthebean :Ok after reading what Tim wrote i have been so inspired i signed up for a year of VoipO... You and 1/2 the forum it looks like.
Welcome to VOIPo! |
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erikthebean
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Ok after reading what Tim wrote i have been so inspired i signed up for a year of VoipO... |
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dcurrey
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Pulse dialing never would figure that would have made any adapters that could handle that. |
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RockyBB
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said by christcorp : I don't know if it's the adapter; voipo; or a combination of both. It's got to be the adapter, interpreting the pulses and creating packets with the appropriate numerical equivalent contents. IP takes packets, not pulses. You knew that! |
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christcorp
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Yea; there's definitely some reasons to want a BYOD provider. I definitely know of some reasons. But for the vast majority of customers, it's a headache waiting to happen. I'm glad voipo is trying to appease many new customers. That's definitely customer service at it's best. I hope it works out.
On the other hand, while I've used PAPs and RT31P2 and way too many others; I actually really like the Grandstream 502 that voipo provides. Main reason; as stupid as it sounds; is that it's the only adapter I've used that allows my ROTARY DIAL phones to work. Don't ask how. I don't know if it's the adapter; voipo; or a combination of both. But my 1957 Chrome Pay phone in my Bar downstairs and my 1910 Country Junction Candlestick phone on the wall as you enter the house; can now DIAL OUT. They aren't phones I normally use, but the novelty of them are great. It was cool to show people they actually worked answering a call. The fact that it can dial out makes the novelty that much better. later... mike.... |
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Buckethead
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said by erikthebean :So if i wanted to sign up with BYOD how would i do that??? Since BYOD is unsupported I would assume you need to sign up through the normal process and receive the GS502 they ship out. |
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erikthebean
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Manchester, NH | reply to Brian in MD
So if i wanted to sign up with BYOD how would i do that??? |
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As VOIPo has now explained it, it sounds like the original title of this thread might be revisited.
Rather than VOIPo - Now (unofficially) supporting BYOD,
it seems that the situation is more like
VOIPo - Now (unofficially) tolerating BYOD.
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And many of the BYOD boffins could come up with useful ideas and adaptations that the company might later adopt.
Just as, for example, McDonald's "Big Mac" was not invented by the company, but rather by a franchise operator. |
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dcurrey
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Well I guess that solves my concern if the main ata dies and want to use backup until replacement arrives. |
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ptrowski
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Good to hear.
I do hope that they maintain the hard line of no-support. You are on your own. I don't say that to be a prick, but once you open the floodgates for potential issues. |
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No local DIDs, and I'm locked into a Qwest POTS line. So I use a ZOOM 5801 to route all long distance via VOIP, local and 911 via POTS. All incoming of course comes in on the POTS port. Works for me, but would be ugly for VOIPo or any provider to try to support such a setup. |
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So .... If you wanted to do BYOD, you would sign up as normal ... an ATA would be shipped to you ... but, you could then call support for SIP credentials to configure your own device. Is that correct?
Now that BYOD is being addressed, can we talk about PAYG?  |
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said by christcorp :Generally speaking; there is very little reasoning behind BYOD if the provider is providing an adapter for free. Not that there aren'y ANY reasons; just very little. I'll give one: I use my SPA-1000 so I can use one provider for domestic calling, and another for international calling, all from a single line phone.
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prestonlewis
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geeks? us? no way. |
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christcorp
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Generally speaking; there is very little reasoning behind BYOD if the provider is providing an adapter for free. Not that there aren'y ANY reasons; just very little. I myself, have so many adapters sitting around the house with no use whatsoever. However; I like knowing that if for some reason my voip isn't working or is acting weird; I can swap out adapters and see if I still have the problem. So for me, troubleshooting is the main reason. For others, there are definitely some reasons.
The reason I mention this is because even though many here have mentioned wanting to use BYOD; that is mainly because; like me and others here; you are geeks. The overwhelming majority of ANY VOIP PROVIDER has no interest whatsoever in using their own adapters. Especially if a new one from their provider is free. As such; from a strictly business standpoint; it makes sense to not allow BYOD. It's been very successful that way for vonage and packet8. The 2 largest 3rd party voip providers out there. The reason it's so successful is because of their ability to control variables and maximize training and customer support. Anyway; I think it's quite generous of Tim (VoipO) to allow users to use their own adapters if they wany. I hope it works out for all of these users. And if you need; there are a lot of brainiacs like yourselves available in these forums to help. But definitely, don't call VoipO unless you are 100% positive. Matter of fact; if you can sign up with voipo and get their free adapter; then you will have a known good one to use if you run into problems. Especially with conflicting dial plans and such. later... mike... |
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Wise move ... if VOIPo sticks to its guns about "ignoring" BYOD cries for help aimed at VOIPo CSRs.
And, the intention to allow BYOD folks to have their own section in the VOIPo webite's Forum should work out well, considering the number of well-versed "seasoned" VOIPo alpha/beta testers who have been using BYODs of various types over the last 2+ years ... many of whom are always happy to lend a hand. |
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