mrchris
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join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Haha
Good luck filtering out legitimite content from pirated, you bunch of uninformed politicians!
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | What is the better solution to the problem?
We don't like throttling. We hate the crappy RIAA lawsuits. We detest the possible ISP "piracy tax". Caps are evil.
So what IS the better solution? |
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Angrychair
join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL | Freedom is always the answer. |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Ya nice and simple
to the Riaa No Lawsuits for you
to the ISP data caps no caps for you
to the congress pay back that 2 trillion+ you took |
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Kearnstd
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well you cant expect government officals to know a WoW patch from someone pirating a Pixar film, gray hairs in the governments of the world probally have to call tech support to stop that blinking 12:00
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Pv8man
join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN | reply to Angrychair
Ya, Free Market P2P is the only answer, LOL
I love repeating lobbyist talking points and skewing them a bit, It's like shoving their own words down their throat. |
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james
join:2001-02-26
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said by beaups  :What is the better solution to the problem? We don't like throttling. We hate the crappy RIAA lawsuits. We detest the possible ISP "piracy tax". Caps are evil. So what IS the better solution? The better solution might be to put more resources into tracking down the pedophiles while they use the open internet instead of forcing them to use encrypted transfers to get around the blocks.
It's actually somewhat smart of them to put resources into tracking P2P instead of blocking websites though, since most child porn freaks use P2P to trade their disgusting warez with eachother.
Oh yeah, I also love how this is now getting a Piracy spin to it. Way to take a serious issue like stopping child porn and pervert it for your own agenda, government bastards. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | The linked article makes no reference to child porn or porn of any kind. It merely states content "unsuitable for children". Maybe stealing isn't a suitable activity for children? Now who is perverting the issue here? |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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said by beaups :So what IS the better solution? Keeping their hands off entirely and letting existing laws and market forces sort it all out.
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KrK
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said by beaups :It merely states content "unsuitable for children". Maybe stealing isn't a suitable activity for children? Yeah, but how exactly are the going to make the filter stop children from learning about being a politician, exactly? 
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to Kearnstd
Maybe WOW can spend their own money on bandwidth instead of expecting us to distribute their patches for them |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to KrK
Market forces usually are not used to resolve LEGAL issues. Theft, for example...how about we get rid of police and let "market forces" take care of thieves. |
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KrK
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Tulsa, OK | Often regular activities are criminalized in order to protect a market share, however. |
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fatness
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said by beaups :What is the better solution to the problem? We don't like throttling. We hate the crappy RIAA lawsuits. We detest the possible ISP "piracy tax". Caps are evil. So what IS the better solution? Leave the internet alone.
Prosecute crimes.
That's the solution.
People advocating measures like this are just big-government advocates who want the government to monitor and control other people's behavior. |
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james
join:2001-02-26
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said by beaups :The linked article makes no reference to child porn or porn of any kind. It merely states content "unsuitable for children". Maybe stealing isn't a suitable activity for children? Now who is perverting the issue here? I remember previous articles about the Aussie Cyber-Safety filtering program had various people saying people agianst it were in favor of child porn. Also the first link has a mention of Child Porn also being the rallying horn behind the call for deep packet inspection in the U.S.
I really don't care enough about your opinion to take 2 seconds to support my claims with more links, so think whatever you like. |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA | reply to Pv8man
Ummm, THEY CAN OPT OUT?
What is the big deal if the people can just opt out?
The filter means nothing, just opt out? |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
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I am not advocating these measures nor do I necessarily disagree with your position. But, how do "they" prosecute the crimes? All of the efforts thus far have been failures. So instead of us all pointing out why all of these measures are bs, inhumane, unconstitutional, etc...let's first acknowledge that there is a problem and then post some ideas on how we would fix it if we were in control. Unless of course everybody here condones the illegal behaviour.
In the case of P2P it's not the "few ruining it for the many"...most of us know it's the "many ruining it for the few". |
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Luwigie
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East Lansing, MI
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They can opt out from the optional (adult content, etc) filtering, but not the illegal filtering with this proposal... |
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norwegian
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It does reference child pron, just read this topic, I'm not going to reprint all that.
The issue of children is just the tip of the iceberg, centralized filtering has a lot more issues than you not doing a little research about the link it is commenting on. Not going off at you, it all just annoys me they think this will be the answer for the issues on the internet.
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
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said by beaups :What is the better solution to the problem? We don't like throttling. We hate the crappy RIAA lawsuits. We detest the possible ISP "piracy tax". Caps are evil. So what IS the better solution? The better solution is for the industry to keep up with the times. Get away from this DRM crap, and just sell MP3s. Wanna see your profit margin shoot up?
I'm sorry but even I don't carry around a CD player anymore  . CD players went out of style when the iPod came out that could play MP3s. Now the majority of people have a iPod or an MP3 player. This isn't rocket science, its common sense. |
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