Haha in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21627199 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:28:34 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:28:34 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21631656 k1ll3rdr4g0n :
said by beaups See Profile :

What is the better solution to the problem?

We don't like throttling. We hate the crappy RIAA lawsuits. We detest the possible ISP "piracy tax". Caps are evil.

So what IS the better solution?
The better solution is for the industry to keep up with the times. Get away from this DRM crap, and just sell MP3s. Wanna see your profit margin shoot up?

I'm sorry but even I don't carry around a CD player anymore :). CD players went out of style when the iPod came out that could play MP3s. Now the majority of people have a iPod or an MP3 player. This isn't rocket science, its common sense.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21631656 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:02:53 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21630424 norwegian : It does reference child pron, just read this topic, I'm not going to reprint all that.

The issue of children is just the tip of the iceberg, centralized filtering has a lot more issues than you not doing a little research about the link it is commenting on. Not going off at you, it all just annoys me they think this will be the answer for the issues on the internet.
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In the case of P2P it's not the "few ruining it for the many"...most of us know it's the "many ruining it for the few".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21629442 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:50:32 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21629303 keyboard5684 : Ummm, THEY CAN OPT OUT?

What is the big deal if the people can just opt out?
The filter means nothing, just opt out?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21629303 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:20:57 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628757 james :
said by beaups See Profile :

The linked article makes no reference to child porn or porn of any kind. It merely states content "unsuitable for children". Maybe stealing isn't a suitable activity for children? Now who is perverting the issue here?
I remember previous articles about the Aussie Cyber-Safety filtering program had various people saying people agianst it were in favor of child porn. Also the first link has a mention of Child Porn also being the rallying horn behind the call for deep packet inspection in the U.S.

I really don't care enough about your opinion to take 2 seconds to support my claims with more links, so think whatever you like.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628757 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:25:37 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628497 fatness :
said by beaups See Profile :

What is the better solution to the problem?

We don't like throttling. We hate the crappy RIAA lawsuits. We detest the possible ISP "piracy tax". Caps are evil.

So what IS the better solution?
Leave the internet alone.
Prosecute crimes.
That's the solution.

People advocating measures like this are just big-government advocates who want the government to monitor and control other people's behavior. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628497 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:08 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628249 KrK : Often regular activities are criminalized in order to protect a market share, however.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628249 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:29:33 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628220 beaups : Market forces usually are not used to resolve LEGAL issues. Theft, for example...how about we get rid of police and let "market forces" take care of thieves.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628220 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:24:02 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628214 beaups : Maybe WOW can spend their own money on bandwidth instead of expecting us to distribute their patches for them]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628214 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:22:39 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628206 KrK :
said by beaups See Profile :

It merely states content "unsuitable for children". Maybe stealing isn't a suitable activity for children?
Yeah, but how exactly are the going to make the filter stop children from learning about being a politician, exactly? :D
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628206 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:37 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628196 KrK :
said by beaups See Profile :

So what IS the better solution?
Keeping their hands off entirely and letting existing laws and market forces sort it all out.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628196 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:18:09 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628164 beaups : The linked article makes no reference to child porn or porn of any kind. It merely states content "unsuitable for children". Maybe stealing isn't a suitable activity for children? Now who is perverting the issue here?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628164 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:10:24 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628144 james :
said by beaups See Profile :

What is the better solution to the problem?

We don't like throttling. We hate the crappy RIAA lawsuits. We detest the possible ISP "piracy tax". Caps are evil.

So what IS the better solution?
The better solution might be to put more resources into tracking down the pedophiles while they use the open internet instead of forcing them to use encrypted transfers to get around the blocks.
It's actually somewhat smart of them to put resources into tracking P2P instead of blocking websites though, since most child porn freaks use P2P to trade their disgusting warez with eachother.

Oh yeah, I also love how this is now getting a Piracy spin to it. Way to take a serious issue like stopping child porn and pervert it for your own agenda, government bastards.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21628144 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:04:23 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627701 Pv8man : Ya, Free Market P2P is the only answer, LOL

I love repeating lobbyist talking points and skewing them a bit, It's like shoving their own words down their throat.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627701 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:35:15 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627691 Kearnstd : well you cant expect government officals to know a WoW patch from someone pirating a Pixar film, gray hairs in the governments of the world probally have to call tech support to stop that blinking 12:00
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to the Riaa No Lawsuits for you
to the ISP data caps no caps for you
to the congress pay back that 2 trillion+ you took]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627688 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:33:02 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627653 Angrychair : Freedom is always the answer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627653 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:27:24 EDT Re: Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627398 beaups : What is the better solution to the problem?

We don't like throttling. We hate the crappy RIAA lawsuits. We detest the possible ISP "piracy tax". Caps are evil.

So what IS the better solution?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627398 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:38:42 EDT Haha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21627199 mrchris : Good luck filtering out legitimite content from pirated, you bunch of uninformed politicians!
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