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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Gogo1 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1014383"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  funchords <A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  battleop <A HREF="/useremail/u/1269402"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>"If there were a law that could fine ISP's for a certain percentage of un-happy customers."<br><br>There is it's called voting with your feet.   Every business has this kind of "fine" in place.<br> </div>Not enough competition.<br> </div>Exactly. Makes you wonder why stupid Americans keep voting for big government, interventionist politicians. Oh wait. Thats all there is to vote for because your country is owned by the republicrats. <br> </div>That's not what I mean, either. <br><br>We're talking about ISPs here.  In meat-space, they'd be analogous to our local roads.  With few exceptions, our roads are publicly owned and operate neutral to someone's source or destination.  (If Target owned the roads, then the good roads would go to Target and the dilapidated roads would go to K-mart and Walmart.)  <br><br>Even when a new store or development builds the roads as a condition of building, that neutrality of travel is enforced.  Competition is preserved because Burger King simply cannot pay anyone to prevent customers from driving to McDonalds. <br><br>Currently, we all sign up for "the Internet" but the broadband ISPs have told the government that they're an "Information Service" like CompuServe or the old America Online.  As a result, most broadband ISPs don't have to carry the competition as a matter of law, and where they do they manufacture bogus charges and network conditions to make sure it is competition in name only. <br><small>--<br>Robb Topolski -= <A HREF="http://funchords.com/">funchords.com</a> =- Hillsboro, Oregon  -- KJ7RL<br><i>What you do at Christmas does not matter so much; What counts are the Christmas things you do all year through.</i></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:39:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1014383"><b>Gogo1</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  funchords <A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  battleop <A HREF="/useremail/u/1269402"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>"If there were a law that could fine ISP's for a certain percentage of un-happy customers."<br><br>There is it's called voting with your feet.   Every business has this kind of "fine" in place.<br> </div>Not enough competition.<br> </div>Exactly. Makes you wonder why stupid Americans keep voting for big government, interventionist politicians. Oh wait. Thats all there is to vote for because your country is owned by the republicrats. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:06:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340409"><b>funchords</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  battleop <A HREF="/useremail/u/1269402"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>"If there were a law that could fine ISP's for a certain percentage of un-happy customers."<br><br>There is it's called voting with your feet.   Every business has this kind of "fine" in place.<br> </div>Not enough competition.<br><small>--<br>Robb Topolski -= <A HREF="http://funchords.com/">funchords.com</a> =- Hillsboro, Oregon  -- KJ7RL<br><i>What you do at Christmas does not matter so much; What counts are the Christmas things you do all year through.</i></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:40:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1269402"><b>battleop</b></A> : "If there were a law that could fine ISP's for a certain percentage of un-happy customers."<br><br>There is it's called voting with your feet.   Every business has this kind of "fine" in place.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:22:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1568514"><b>Pv8man</b></A> : Ya, that would never happen in reality. <br><br>If there were a law that could fine ISP's for a certain percentage of un-happy customers. <br>The companies lobbyists in DC would scream bloody murder.<br><br>NO WELFARE FOR CORPORATIONS!!!!! <br><br>oh, but anytime the consumers try to fight for fair rights, then they say it's a "Hand-out" to the people.<br><br>But when THEY see a chance to get more tax payer money....<br><br>it's "Necessary to keep business alive"]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:04:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1175917"><b>k1ll3rdr4g0n</b></A> : Cancel the broadband stimulus ASAP!<br>Instead make a law making the ISPs actually support and maintain their service.<br><br>I actually thought about this, and the FCC should introduce a law that makes it so if a ISP has more than 10% of unhappy customers they get fined or something.<br><br>My fellow DSLR posters, if they keep raising rates, why do they need more money? It's not getting put towards the infrastructure, that much we know by comcast blocking torrents instead of upgrading their systems to handle the extra workload. What about the caps and overage fees? What about the ISP's threats about an "exaflood"?<br>These idiots are too greedy and you need to whack them upside the head. If the ISP's get any money, it will go straight to the CEO then funneled down to his workers (what 1%?). We gave them ample time to "fix" their attitude, now its time to fix it for them!<br><br>Lets all shoot an EECB to the FCC telling them that they need to examine the financial records of all these ISP to see if they indeed need more money.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:40:37 EDT</pubDate>
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