anonname
@ownit.se
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Re: Fail!
You guys are worrying about three strikes on your internet connection, when you now have "one strike" on being targeted as an "internal threat" by someone with access to "Homeland Security", that does not like you for any reason.
Welcome to the American Gestapo.
»www.nowpublic.com/world/domestic···ic-shame |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
said by k1ll3rdr4g0n  :said by dadkins :This has EPIC written all over it!  Pass the popcorn, this will be better than a crappy movie that the MPAA support!  You know who this will 'scare'? 2 people. And those are the people who are using torrents non stop to download 0 day releases. and yet the studio itself is the #1 leak source of non cam jobs for 0day DVD quality downloads.
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redxii
too big to fail
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join:2001-02-26
Texas | reply to dadkins
Apparently, France needs a law to do this.
Here, we see who's really in charge... |
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JohnQPublic
Premium
join:2002-03-22
Xanadu
1 edit | reply to dadkins
Leave it to the Shylocks at the RIAA and MPAA to convince ISPs that doing their bidding is not only beneficial to them, they should shoulder the costs of doing such, and should ultimately send them money to boot.
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | reply to swhx7
You know, the companies under the MAFIAA's control would never agree to to this. |
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funchords
Hello
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Skype
1 edit | reply to ViRGEdx
said by ViRGEdx :*think of all the Comcast subscribers that hit near their cap; that's 250GB of backhaul traffic you save on every time you can a $50 customer Why, because people won't listen to music or watch video if they have to get it legally?
The smart ISPs know better -- fighting P2P file-sharing is the wrong battle, because this is simply consumer demand being fueled by the want of multimedia to fill big-screens and iPods.
Plus the ISPs are also video-delivery companies that fight their own licensing battles -- the excesses of copyright mean they don't get anything for free unless its 70 years old. They know first hand how ridiculous that is, and how impossible it is to bargain with monopolistic power.
What good is the 500-channel system if there's nothing interesting on? How relevant is programming from before the U.S. truly was "the Great 48"? So why offer the 500-channel system if nobody can afford to subscribe? ISPs aren't in a hurry to embrace studio power -- they want exclusive rights ended sooner just as much as we do. (Isn't it true that if somehow the studios could eliminate simple file-sharing, it would just strengthen the studio's own monopoly power and Video providers would pay even more abusive rates for programming content?)
But, either way, you can't fight demand -- nobody can fight demand. One might as well try to sweep the water back into the ocean with a pushbroom -- the day will be busy, but nothing will actually be accomplished.
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia | reply to dadkins
Maybe "three strikes" can be a good policy sometimes - how about, three false accusations and a company is not allowed to bother ISPs any more! |
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
| reply to dadkins
Re: Fail!
said by dadkins :This has EPIC written all over it! Pass the popcorn, this will be better than a crappy movie that the MPAA support!
You know who this will 'scare'? 2 people. And those are the people who are using torrents non stop to download 0 day releases. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to Kearnstd
Re: Fail!
Nope. The big ISPs are whores. They will take any customer for any reason. At their size they only care about subscriber numbers because their model makes more money in volume, not per subscriber profits. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to nothing00
Re: Two interesting side effects
said by nothing00 :1) People sitting on the fence about pirating now have a green light to pirate until they get a notice in the mail. 2) Are you "banned for life"? Sure, there's getting kicked off of "your ISP" but is the sentence a life sentence? Can you resubscribe at a later time? Are you put on an Orwellian blacklist and banned from all broadband everywhere? Does everyone in your household get denied broadband forever? That would be sooooo cool. that would pretty much be impossible since the ISP has no way to know the SSNs of other people in the house. so if the kid moves out it would be impossible for him to be blacklisted since his SSN was never on the services.
of course the fact everything in life is locked to SSNs is a whole different issue that needs to be resolved well before we worry about non economy effecting things like The Pirate Bay.
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Endgame
Your member at work
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join:2005-07-07
USA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
1 edit | reply to BetaTron
Re: Fail!
Don't worry peeps, they'll get what's coming to them when the economy goes belly up next year and people stop giving them money all together. Evil always knows how to shoot itself in the foot feet. 
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nothing00
join:2001-06-10
Centereach, NY
| reply to N10Cities
Two interesting side effects
1) People sitting on the fence about pirating now have a green light to pirate until they get a notice in the mail.
2) Are you "banned for life"? Sure, there's getting kicked off of "your ISP" but is the sentence a life sentence? Can you resubscribe at a later time? Are you put on an Orwellian blacklist and banned from all broadband everywhere? Does everyone in your household get denied broadband forever?
That would be sooooo cool. |
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kfsutops
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join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
clubs: 
| reply to ViRGEdx
Re: Fail!
said by ViRGEdx :*think of all the Comcast subscribers that hit near their cap; that's 250GB of backhaul traffic you save on every time you can a $50 customer That is assuming the ISP's pay by the gigabyte. Which they do not.
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BetaTron
Sinz
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join:2002-08-18
Brooklyn, NY
| reply to dadkins
said by dadkins :This has EPIC written all over it! +1
I'm so tired of this nonsense. They (the four letter acronym people) seem to have all the answers but they can't figure out a way to deliver truly quality content when we want it and how we want it, at a fair price of course. |
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ViRGEdx
join:2002-10-25
| reply to Kearnstd
said by Kearnstd :but it also depends on ISPs running a database A database is an optimality thing, but it's not necessary. Once you get blacklisted by your cable and DSL providers separately, most people won't have any other good choices. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to dadkins
but it also depends on ISPs running a database, someone gets dropped by comcast do you honestly think ATT/Verizon will turn down a high use customer that will buy their most expensive speed tiers.
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ViRGEdx
join:2002-10-25
| reply to dadkins
Epic? Sure. But I don't think it'll fail.
The RIAA will eventually get enough data to convince the ISP beancounters that they're going to save more money than acting on these requests will cost*. There's a finite list of ISPs, and an even smaller list of good ones; this system doesn't have to be perfect to scare people away from pirating materials.
*think of all the Comcast subscribers that hit near their cap; that's 250GB of backhaul traffic you save on every time you can a $50 customer |
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N10Cities
SILENCE I Keel You
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join:2002-05-07
Roland, OK
clubs:
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·World Lynx
1 edit | reply to dadkins
said by dadkins :This has EPIC written all over it! Possibly, but still better than people receiving lawsuits..... |
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