Re: Great Firewall of China blocks most of what it wants blocked in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21649368 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:41:10 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:41:10 EDT Re: Great Firewall of China blocks most of what it wants blocked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21649645 Kearnstd :
said by OverModded See Profile :

iiNet, has said they'll participate -- but only to clearly illustrate to the Australian government how technically impossible and "stupid" the program is.
It isn't technically impossible. Though in Australia it may be politically impossible. All it takes is the will of the gov't to do it and punish attempts to bypass it. See China & Iran for working filters(not 100%, but very high in compliance by its people).
the difference is that China and Iran will shoot, hang, throw to the lions, Torture anyone who breaks their rules because human rights are non existant in their justice systems.
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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21649645 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 07:59:34 EDT Re: Great Firewall of China blocks most of what it wants blocked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21649464 KrK :
said by OverModded See Profile :

See China & Iran for working filters(not 100%, but very high in compliance by its people).
Only officially, publicly. It's actually very high non-compliance by the citizenry privately.

It's also why there's a huge market for satellite receivers and such. They use them to pickup foreign "uncensored" content; including western programming.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21649464 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:02:52 EDT Re: Great Firewall of China blocks most of what it wants blocked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21649368 Corydon : Both have their limitations, and also presume that there are countries that do not participate in the restrictions. When even countries that have fairly robust free speech traditions (like the US) can prosecute you for publishing software that might be used by a third party for illegal purposes (what was that that the NRA used to say about guns?) then it's a logical step to banning the methods used to subvert the blocks.

Also, the Internet is about making information freely available from as many people to as many people as possible. But if I need to jump through hoops (use Tor or whatever) to get to site A, whereas site B just works with my browser, then many, many people just won't bother and will for all intents and purposes lose access to site A.
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But anyway, VPNs, proxies, and so on are going to get extremely popular down under once the filters are implemented.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21647892 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:44:48 EDT Re: Great Firewall of China blocks most of what it wants blocked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21646740 sholling : It starts with porn, and then eventually the no opt-out filters will extend to politically incorrect thoughts. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21646740 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:18:00 EDT Re: Great Firewall of China blocks most of what it wants blocked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21646555 a333 : Yes, in case you haven't noticed, those can be bypassed in about 5 minutes by any teenager with a brain slightly larger than a peanut... it's called Tor, or an ssh/vpn tunnel. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21646555 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:26:38 EDT Great Firewall of China blocks most of what it wants blocked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21646026 OverModded :
iiNet, has said they'll participate -- but only to clearly illustrate to the Australian government how technically impossible and "stupid" the program is.
It isn't technically impossible. Though in Australia it may be politically impossible. All it takes is the will of the gov't to do it and punish attempts to bypass it. See China & Iran for working filters(not 100%, but very high in compliance by its people).
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