 jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | reply to Corydon
Re: Non sequitur said by Corydon:If this logic is true, then why was Minneapolis-St. Paul (part of Qwest's, not Verizon's footprint) one of the first cities to get the faster speeds from Comcast? It's a nice place to test out a new technology before going head to head with FiOS. It's almost guaranteed that FiOS is indirectly responsible for the increased speeds in the Twin Cities.
Others tend to agree.
»www.telecompetitor.com/node/588
"Comcast probably picked a non-FiOS market like Minneapolis to perfect their “craft” before going head up with Verizon. They’ll want to gain some experience in a more competitive friendly town before going to battle." |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | The others that "tend to agree" are again speculating. The reason that Comcast Minnesota got the new speeds first is in part of its system rating in the bunch.
The keyword in your quoted paragraph was "probably" to which I can tell you was pretty much a false guess.
Comcast Minnesota is a A/B rated system. Its in good condition, the leakage is very low, the return path system here is clean, and many other factors made this system a good choice for it. The St. Paul system has always been a very well run system for comcast... and the system was just ready for it. Compared to other cities, St Paul is a very clean, well run system and has always been ahead of the curve of other systems.
To be honest, products have launched in other markets that were not quite perfected. Comcast simply works through all the good and bad along side the competition. I don't think anyone here can say why Comcast does anything they way they do.. the decisions that are made never seem to follow any pattern from before. Also, Comcast has, over the years, been more tight lipped on it's plans vs shouting them out to the world as they had in the past. |
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jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | My opinion on the matter, despite reading Comcast's defensive squirming about the Minnesota deployment of DOCSIS 3.0 not being about competition, remains unchanged. There are plenty of systems that Comcast could have chosen, but they preferred to implement this in an area with little or no competition offering anything comparable. This is the perfect climate to trial something new and relatively untested. The environment was more controlled.
And now that Comcast has started deploying DOCSIS 3.0 almost exclusively in FiOS areas, such as Fort Wayne, Indiana, or proposed FiOS locations, such as their threatened Philadelphia base of operations, I feel even more strongly about this position. The Minneapolis test site was chosen out of all the possible locations due, in large part, to competition from FiOS. This is despite Comcast's claims stating otherwise.
I simply believe that Comcast would not make such a critical decision without careful consideration of their competition. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Defensive squirming huh?
Almost exclusively?
Sounds like those two statements, alone, allow me to put my money on the fact that it really is just 'your opinion'... I gave you some pretty clear facts as to why the system was chosen for DOCSIS 3.0.. also, while some people think that everything revolves about the internet, you may also not know that the MN system was also a test bed for many other products and services too...
.. but again, it's all about HSI theories. |
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jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | You are simply repeating what Comcast has already stated back in April.
»www.lightreading.com/document.as···site=cdn
"...the Twin Cities have established a solid track record in testing and deploying new technologies..."
I agree that the test site selection was chosen, in part, because of the excellent condition of the system. That much is obvious to me. Great infrastructure, a metropolitan area with plenty of potential customers and traffic, and no real competition in the area with a product that currently competes with the services undergoing testing.
I don't know why it's so difficult for you to believe that the lack of competition had anything to do with the test site selection. Unless this is personal to you for some reason? Nobody wants to test a race car in an actual competition before going a few laps on a test track.
It's clear to me that the pricing models and speed tiers that Comcast decided upon while testing are currently set to compete directly with Verizon's FiOS offerings. This is all about competition with FiOS, including the choice in where to begin their testing. Comcast's denial plays right along with how they always seem to react when FiOS is mentioned. Their actions tell a different story. I'm right in the midst of this cable/fiber battleground, so it's difficult to ignore.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3
1 edit | I don't read what the other stories say.. I happened to have heard it, and lived it daily, for many moons personally.. Unlike some, I don't arm chair. I know first hand the condition of the system based in St. Paul.
Why is it so difficult? .. becuase it's an opinion and one that I don't agree with. When you place the stipulations on it that you do, you're working hard to spin a theory to make it true - sorry, I just disagree.
As it's made perfectly clear, there are many systems that are NOT as reliable out there as this one. If you were going to test a product, especially one that is prone to imperfections, would you deploy it on a known reliable system? Or a state of the art piece of crap?
And, to clear things up.. no, I'm not 'simply repeating' what comcast stated back in April.. and simply becuase it was stated in an article doesn't mean it's some conspiracy.. you think perhaps that it could be a valid reason?
I think you, and others, try to hard to place Verizon in the center of a long road already have been traveled for years in a long term plan.. ie: these things have been in the works for years.. FiOS isn't the center of the communications universe. You seem to think that becuase you're in VA or in the middle of a Fios/Comcast competition game that your situation is unique OR that it's built around your area.. A customer is a customer and means nothing if they subscribe to cable, DSL, Fiber or EVEN DIAL-UP... if they aren't subscribing to your service and paying your invoice, they are fair game. Like you, I'm in the middle of a competition area too between comcast and Qwest. It's not always about who's the fastest.. it's about many things such as reliability, price, speed, services, support, reputation and many other reasons.
To think that everything revolves around Comcast and Verizon's FiOS is to be short minded. |
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I'm living in Fort Wayne, IN so I thought I would post this. Its from the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette.
»www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs···12160305
Its was announced back in November 23, 2008 about Comcast speed increases coming before the end of year. I've enclosed that link below.
»www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs···11230367 |
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