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r81984
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Re: They will never see a dime...

said by jvanbrecht See Profile :

For one, the company was a registrar, which means they likely paid nothing to register the domains in question.

Secondly, its not that they (Verizon and anyone else) are entitled to any domain that uses their name, however any domain that uses their name to advertise competing products is a problem, and if verizon does not aggresively persue trademark dilution/infringement cases, they lose their trademark.

The monies awarded were punitive more so then anything else. As for getting the money, the judge siezed the companies assets. However, they most likely are not going to even come close to getting the $33m.
A web address is not trademark infrindment, its just a plain text web address. Now if they had Verizon posted all over the site then you have a problem. All I have read is they cybersquatted which it is their right to do. People cybersquatted domains all the time.
If they did not then I would have myname.com.
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said by r81984 See Profile :

said by jvanbrecht See Profile :

For one, the company was a registrar, which means they likely paid nothing to register the domains in question.

Secondly, its not that they (Verizon and anyone else) are entitled to any domain that uses their name, however any domain that uses their name to advertise competing products is a problem, and if verizon does not aggresively persue trademark dilution/infringement cases, they lose their trademark.

The monies awarded were punitive more so then anything else. As for getting the money, the judge siezed the companies assets. However, they most likely are not going to even come close to getting the $33m.
A web address is not trademark infrindment, its just a plain text web address. Now if they had Verizon posted all over the site then you have a problem. All I have read is they cybersquatted which it is their right to do. People cybersquatted domains all the time.
If they did not then I would have myname.com.
They weren't just registering the domain names. They were making visitors think those websites are authentic verzion websites.

jvanbrecht

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You are incorrect. As someone else said, you never trademarked your name, so you have no right to yourname.com. Secondly, you should have acted quicker, I happen to have myname.com hell I also have mywifesname.com (but she has of course changed it now that we are married)...

If the company had registered the domain to use it for something that would fall under fair use rights, then they may have a claim to registering a domain under another companies trademark.

This company, if you read the article, registered 900000 domains related to very large brand names, that shows bad faith and the intention to dilute those trademarks and to use them to make a profit (via advertising).

Anything else you would like to throw my way, I am having a ball shooting you down...

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said by r81984 See Profile :

A web address is not trademark infrindment, its just a plain text web address. Now if they had Verizon posted all over the site then you have a problem. All I have read is they cybersquatted which it is their right to do. People cybersquatted domains all the time.
If they did not then I would have myname.com.
Appearently attorneys would disagree.

»www.bitlaw.com/internet/webpage.···rademark
"Trademark infringement occurs when one party utilizes the mark of another in such a way as to create a likelihood of confusion, mistake and/or deception with the consuming public. The confusion created can be that the defendant's products or services are the same as that of the trademark owner, or that the defendant is somehow associated, affiliated, connected, approved, authorized or sponsored by trademark owner. Since most web sites will contain discussions of products or services, web site developers should be aware of the potential trademark issues."

There is no exclusion for web addresses and information on websites. What is written on a website is no different then any other written information. It clearly CAN be trademark infringement!

Again, is your name a registered trademark? can you show that someone is misleading others and this is somehow affecting you by using myname.com?

If you only read that they were cybersquating then it appears that you did not read all of the information. The complaint was that they were representing themselves as Verizon and misleading others and that this action was creating harm to Verizon.


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said by jvanbrecht See Profile :

You are incorrect. As someone else said, you never trademarked your name, so you have no right to yourname.com. Secondly, you should have acted quicker, I happen to have myname.com hell I also have mywifesname.com (but she has of course changed it now that we are married)...

If the company had registered the domain to use it for something that would fall under fair use rights, then they may have a claim to registering a domain under another companies trademark.

This company, if you read the article, registered 900000 domains related to very large brand names, that shows bad faith and the intention to dilute those trademarks and to use them to make a profit (via advertising).

Anything else you would like to throw my way, I am having a ball shooting you down...
Trademarking means nothing for a web address. It is plain text domain name that anyone has the right to register. When it comes to domains, it is first come first serve. If Verizon wants those names then they should have to buy them from that company for at least what the company paid for them. In no way should that company have to pay Verizon for anything.

If Verizon does not like it then they should not use the internet.
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