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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
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1 edit | Split from DOCSIS 3.0 thread - more bandwidth limits Belongs here ---> »The Bandwidth Limits/Congestion Management Topic
said by Chris 313:said by kenshell:I was wondering about the caps. Is that 250GB in place for the 30/5 and 50/10 tier? said by data129:  Great speed, ok price but why do you want to have that speed and pay that price if comcast caps you 250GB a month? Until it's actually been stated, the 250GB cap is in place on all tiers. Really blows for 22/5 and 50/10 since those people would be likely to use more since they get things in faster. But as someone once said, it's not that you use more, you just get what you already use, faster. EXACTLY!
I have went from 1.5mbps years ago to now 16/2 and I still do real good to break 30GB per month.
I just don't have to wait as long as I did back then.
Comcast is selling speed, not volume. 
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|  | | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please One goes with the other.
They are pushing these faster tiers to watch movies, gaming and such.
That comes with more bandwidth
said by dadkins:EXACTLY! Comcast is selling speed, not volume. | |
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kudos:18 | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please said by kenshell:One goes with the other. They are pushing these faster tiers to watch movies, gaming and such. That comes with more bandwidth Wrong.
Gaming doesn't need gobs of speed, El Cheapo DSL will do fine.
Ever see what the Min specs are for watching movies? It isn't 6/8/12/16/22/or 50mbps.
Speed means porn.avi gets here in seconds vs minutes.
Volume means thousands of vids.
One more time, Comcast is selling speed, not volume.
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| | | | | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please We understand they/you are selling speed.
What part do you not get about volume?
I wish to have more volume and need more volume with this greater speed. Whether it is porn or religious avi's that I download to watch should be no concern to you.
said by dadkins:said by kenshell:One goes with the other. They are pushing these faster tiers to watch movies, gaming and such. That comes with more bandwidth Wrong. Gaming doesn't need gobs of speed, El Cheapo DSL will do fine. Ever see what the Min specs are for watching movies? It isn't 6/8/12/16/22/or 50mbps. Speed means porn.avi gets here in seconds vs minutes. Volume means thousands of vids. One more time, Comcast is selling speed, not volume. | |
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2 edits | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please said by kenshell:We understand they/you are selling speed. What part do you not get about volume? I wish to have more volume and need more volume with this greater speed. Whether it is porn or religious avi's that I download to watch should be no concern to you. Me? I don't work for Comcast - or anyone for that matter. I'm disabled!
What part don't I get about volume? I get it, how about you?
No where does Comcast say you can max your connection 24/7/365 and pull tons of data.
On the contrary, there has always been a "Inviso-Cap" and now a soft 250GB stated cap.
Care to speculate on why? *I* know why.
I couldn't care less what you download friend, I'm just trying to enlighten you - and others - that Comcast is selling speed.
If you read my post again, I said *here*. As in, what I download. 
There is a limit(obviously) on the amount you can use this speed - regardless what you want or need. Sorry! 
Tell ya what, max it out and see what happens! 
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| | | | | | | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please We do not need you to enlighten us on anything.
The newer speed tiers will bring more bandwidth usage from those of us that pay for it.
said by dadkins:said by kenshell:We understand they/you are selling speed. What part do you not get about volume? I wish to have more volume and need more volume with this greater speed. Whether it is porn or religious avi's that I download to watch should be no concern to you. Me? I don't work for Comcast - or anyone for that matter. I'm disabled! What part don't I get about volume? I get it, how about you? No where does Comcast say you can max your connection 24/7/365 and pull tons of data. On the contrary, there has always been a "Inviso-Cap" and now a soft 250GB stated cap. Care to speculate on why? *I* know why. I couldn't care less what you download friend, I'm just trying to enlighten you - and others - that Comcast is selling speed. If you read my post again, I said *here*. As in, what I download. There is a limit(obviously) on the amount you can use this speed - regardless what you want or need. Sorry! Tell ya what, max it out and see what happens! | |
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2 edits | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please said by kenshell:We do not need you to enlighten us on anything. The newer speed tiers will bring more bandwidth usage from those of us that pay for it. Apparently I do.
You are mistaken in thinking you are paying for unfettered consumption.
Like I said, open it up! Download wide open 24/7 and see what happens friend.
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please Who said unfettered?
Show me where I wrote anything like that?
I implied maybe a change in the cap with the newer tier.
Is there anything else you wish to misconstrue?
Have a wonderful day.
said by dadkins:Apparently I do. You are mistaken in thinking you are paying for unfettered consumption. Like I said, open it up! Download wide open 24/7 and see what happens friend. | |
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kudos:18 | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please All I can say is - Go for it!
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kudos:1 | From what I heard the Ultra tier still has the 250GB cap, while the Extreme 50/10 tier does not have any caps. | |
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| | | | | | Obviously this topic is as diverse as religion, however, comcast is in the business of selling both. They would never offer a 100/100 plan with enough volume to download 1 email.
What they should do is keep the 250Gb cap in place to keep the majority in line, and offer a capless option for an extra 20 bucks a month or something. I know if you go business you get no cap now, but the cost for alot of people seems to be 2x the consumer cost, which is excessive. In addition, the majority do not need the business extra's that come with the business plan and reduce comcasts bottom line for that plan.
I'm not sure what the extra amount would have to be to enable someone to max out their pipe 24x7x365 (which I doubt even the most hardcore users could pull off, but I'm sure some people out there do it), but they could certainly calculate a way to make that happen, keep service up for the others in the area, and try once again to make everyone happy (isn't there some old adage about trying to make everyone happy?).
I don't like the whole concept of capping. And it would be different if I signed up with comcast with that clearly stated (I know some argue I did, but it wasn't clear if it was 1 email or 1Tb). I think the real reason most are upset is that comcast put this in place without letting people have any options. I mean, they could even have this extra charge for a capless connection be available to only those that had service before the caps were put in place, and not become the place for people that just want to constantly suck down every newsgroup/internet site to make their own home version of the internet archive or something. I just think they did a bad job with the implementation of the caps, and thats the major rub, not the cap itself, but for those who are seriously trying hard to keep right under the cap (and they are out there), they should have options other than switching once someone else comes in.
I don't expect many to agree with me, maybe no one on here, but thats the diverse nature of the net, it makes it great, it makes it suck, and it makes it impossible for a single ISP to be "perfect" for everyone.
My $.02 on the subject.
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1 edit | Re: Let's keep all DOCSIS 3.0 Discussion in this thread, please No, you too are wrong friend.
"They should..." - irrelevent!
They can, and will, do whatever they see fit with *THEIR* network.
"I don't like..." - well neither do I, but it is *THEIR* network, not mine!
I agreed to the AUP and TOS and the provisions therein that states they can change anything they want at any time.
So, if they decide to maybe lower the caps to something stupid like Rodgers... *I* will have to decide whether or not I will continue with their services.
Simple enough, right?
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