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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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reply to Nemokrad
Re: Now now Karl

How did he downplay it and flame it? If anything, he flamed T-mo for using non-standard 3G frequencies. I don't think anyone can blame Apple for there being only one other GSM provider in the US.


iansltx_

@spcsdns.net

Glad to see the 3G unlock. Unfortunate that TMo had to resort to AWS in the States for 3G.

As for LTe, it's totally independent of CdMA or GSM. So is WiMAX for tgat matter. As a matter of fact, the current 3G (HSPA) is closer to CDMA in tech specs than GSM, though the band width is much wider...5 MHz vs 1.25.

So for either tech you'll need new equipment. Personally, WiMAX is already here, so Sprint has the jump on things.

Oh, and WiMAX seems to havecaught on where CDMA cought on before, like Korea. I don't think it'll pull an EPIC FAIL like HD DVD did.

I'll take my CDMA phone, thanks...with high speed data in 99% of the places I go. ATT 3G is getting better, but the EvDO footprint available to me is huge...and tends to be just as fast as ATT 3G, if not faster...despite what the specs say.


Nemokrad

join:2002-04-24
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reply to PolarBear
said by PolarBear See Profile :

How did he downplay it and flame it? If anything, he flamed T-mo for using non-standard 3G frequencies. I don't think anyone can blame Apple for there being only one other GSM provider in the US.
Read up on past stories about Apple and you will see...


PolarBear
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·CableOne

said by Nemokrad See Profile :

Read up on past stories about Apple and you will see...
But since he didn't do that here, how was your comment relevant at all?


swelch51

@cableone.net

reply to PolarBear
said by PolarBear See Profile :

How did he downplay it and flame it? If anything, he flamed T-mo for using non-standard 3G frequencies. I don't think anyone can blame Apple for there being only one other GSM provider in the US.
You are incorrect. There are quite a few more than 2 GSM providers in the US....

»www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo···us.shtml


swelch51

@cableone.net

reply to PolarBear
said by PolarBear See Profile :

How did he downplay it and flame it? If anything, he flamed T-mo for using non-standard 3G frequencies. I don't think anyone can blame Apple for there being only one other GSM provider in the US.
Not quite right. There are quite a few more than 2 GSM providers in the US....

»www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo···us.shtml


PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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Re: Now now Karl

Yeah, I trust that list a LOT. It says that Alltel is a GSM provider; Alltel uses CDMA, which is why Verizon Wireless bought them.

Good job, troll, good job.


SterlingJ85
Obama 2008

join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ
·PHONE POWER

Uhh.. Yes, Alltel is predominately a CDMA provider.

But, when they bought Western Wireless they also now own a huge geographical area of GSM (Mountain/Mid-Western States). This makes up most of the rural GSM coverage you see in the middle of the US. Alltel still runs the GSM network for roaming revenue, and part of Verizon's condition by the FCC for the merger was that they keep running it for several more years. However a lot of the areas will be divested to another carrier (probably AT&T, but that's an unknown right now).


swelch51

@cableone.net

Give SterlingJ85 a cigar. Right on the money. Western Wireless had a huge footprint. Around here, they were known as Cellular One, now they're Alltel. Western had started rolling out a GSM network before they were bought out. I'm not sure whether or not Alltel is continuing that build.

Crawl a little out of your cave and learn a little about the rest of the US before you start calling people trolls.


SterlingJ85
Obama 2008

join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ
·PHONE POWER


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AFAIK, Alltel has overlaid CDMA/GSM across all the old Western Wireless network for purposes of roaming revenue from other carriers.

While Alltel does have customers in these markets, most of their revenue in these parts does actually come from other carrier's customers roaming. For this very reason, no matter who picks up the divested areas will more than likely keep these networks alive until the technology has been sunset (for GSM and CDMA this could be a decade - for TDMA/AMPS some sites may have aleady been turned down in some areas if there is little demand on the network).
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