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Franz
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Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

I am looking to buy a new router.
If possible, I would like to be able to leave all devices set for DHCP and have the router set a SPECIFIC IP address based upon the connected device's MAC address.

Does such a router exist? If so, it will need to have wireless built in and be of reasonable cost.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Edit: I am currently using the Linksys WRT54G v1.1 and it does not support this feature.
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

I think most routers support MAC binding.

I'm used a Netopia 3346N DSL router that supports the feature. I find it very handy. Benefit of static IP allocation with convenience of DHCP.

/tom

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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

said by tschmidt See Profile :

I think most routers support MAC binding.

I'm used a Netopia 3346N DSL router that supports the feature. I find it very handy. Benefit of static IP allocation with convenience of DHCP.

/tom
Anything less expensive than the one you are using?
Looks to be about $150...
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

said by Franz See Profile :

Looks to be about $150...
Bought mine used on eBay. They go for $30-40 there are several different flavors. If you go this route try to get a modem that supported ADSL2 and ADSL2+. That is newer versions of the spec and have several performance advantages. If DSLAM supports it connection will use ADSL2 if not will drop back to ADSL.

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The WRT54G stock firmware does not support this.

However, the Tomato and DD-WRT firmware for the WRT54G do allow you to assign the same IP to a device based on MAC address.

For Tomato, it's under Static DHCP.
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

said by Rob See Profile :

The WRT54G stock firmware does not support this.

However, the Tomato and DD-WRT firmware for the WRT54G do allow you to assign the same IP to a device based on MAC address.

For Tomato, it's under Static DHCP.
How safe is this?
Any chance I will "brick" my router?
Will I lose any features?
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

1) Depends on how you define 'safe'.
2) Of course - when flashing to ANY newer firmware (even Linksys) there is a chance at bricking the router. In the Linksys forum here at DSLR there are ways to possibly unbrick the router.
3) Nope - you generally gain a lot more features. Here is a link to the Wiki on versions of DDWRT and their features: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT

Info for Tomato: »www.polarcloud.com/tomato
sheiker

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said by Franz See Profile :

said by Rob See Profile :

The WRT54G stock firmware does not support this.

However, the Tomato and DD-WRT firmware for the WRT54G do allow you to assign the same IP to a device based on MAC address.

For Tomato, it's under Static DHCP.
How safe is this?
Any chance I will "brick" my router?
Will I lose any features?
DD-WRT can turn your $40-$50 router into a router that would normally cost $150+.

I have a WRT54GL that I bought specifically to put the regular sized DD-WRT on it. It does what you are looking for, plus, oh, so much more!

I HIGHLY recommend it!

And as was already mentioned, there is a slight risk in bricking the router, but its very very slight. If you follow the directions on the DD-WRT site, you will be fine.
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I haven't seen one that does not suport MAC reservation or static DHCP.
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

None of the WRT series supports static DHCP as I doubt many consumer router will - with stock firmware.
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

said by CylonRed See Profile :

... I doubt many consumer router will - with stock firmware.
SMC Barricade 7004BR (certain newer (stock) firmware revisions; really ancient)
Netgear FR114P (now obsolete)
Netgear FV114 (possibly obsolete)
D-Link D-714UP
D-Link DIR-655

I could probably find others that I have not owned. I'd guess anything beyond cheap $19 specials.
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

said by NormanS See Profile :

said by CylonRed See Profile :

... I doubt many consumer router will - with stock firmware.
SMC Barricade 7004BR (certain newer (stock) firmware revisions; really ancient)
Netgear FR114P (now obsolete)
Netgear FV114 (possibly obsolete)
D-Link D-714UP
D-Link DIR-655

I could probably find others that I have not owned. I'd guess anything beyond cheap $19 specials.
Add to that list the Netgear WNR2000 and the D-Link DIR-825.
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said by CylonRed See Profile :

None of the WRT series supports static DHCP as I doubt many consumer router will - with stock firmware.
My WRT310N supports DHCP address reservation with the stock firmware.
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

I stand corrected - the WRT54G and GS does not.
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Never mind.

Franz
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said by Franz See Profile :

Edit: I am currently using the Linksys WRT54G v1.1 and it does not support this feature.
»www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wh···D-WRT%3F

»www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/dd-wrt/d···ads.html

I am having some trouble figuring out exactly which file I need to download. I would like to get a *.bin file so I can flash via web interface.
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

quote:
The following Broadcom chipsets require the VINT builds:

* Linksys WRT54G v1
* Linksys WAP54G v1
* Sitecom WL-105b
* Any older routers using Broadcom 4702/4710 chipsets and have mini-PCI cards wl0_corerev
Since you have v1.1 - the 24 version of DDWRT should be fine - just choose the version based on the features you need/want from your fist link.

The second link is a directory structure, click on the directory wanted (click on v24-sp1 --> Consumer --> Linksys etc... - I got it down to the choices for the WRT54G v1.1: »www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/dd-wrt/d···ads.html

Just to be sure you might want to check with others at the DDWRT forums or our own Linksys forum. There should be detailed instructions that need to be followed to be successful.

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I use smoothwall (free) and runs on just about any old computer (also free). It does what you want, plus a whole lot more.
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My Netgear WGR614 does DHCP reservation by MAC in stock form. I use it to reserve IPs for my network attached printers. Only around $30-$40 at Wally World or Best Buy. Works fine for me and don't have to mess with building a box (although Smoothwall and other similar software work well, just have to spend a little time and effort)...

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This is what you want:
---> TRENDnet TEW-633GR EWC Router
---> $80 at NewEgg
---> »www.trendnet.com/products/TEW-633GR.htm

wireless 802.11b/g/n 4-port Gigabit Ethernet switch/router

MAC based IP assignment + features like prioritized traffic streams based on Local/Remote IP, or transport protocal, or Port range.

There's a hard off switch for wireless, as well as the ability to throttle wireless bandwidth (very useful).

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I thought all routers did this very thing. Apparently not all, but at least he ones I have used and worked with did.

Currently I have a Dlink DI624 unit. I set a static IP to a print server based on its MAC address. Otherwise it would get a random IP each time it was turned on and nobody would be able to print to it.

CylonRed
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

Why turn a print server on and off? I believe mine is set to DHCP and the pool is as large as the devices I have (maybe one extra) and the printer server is never off - have never had a IP problem with the print server.

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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

Power outages would be a good reason.

I've done the exact same with my printer server (an HP 300X) and my Dlink 524.

I'm really surprised that the WRT54G does not have this capability. But I checked the emulator, and it appears to be so.

CylonRed
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

We have had a couple of power outages as well - never had a problem with IP's and the print server (no - it is not on a UPS either).
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My Netgear WGR614V9 supports this, you can get it for around $40.
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Franz, if you have a WRT54G *v1.1* and you want to try DD-WRT, please make absolutely sure you get the VINT (vintage driver) version of DD-WRT. If you put the standard or NEWD (New Driver) on there, you will definitely have problems as the older WRT54G units have older Broadcom wireless chipsets that need older drivers to work properly. I still have a v1 WRT54G that works great and am running the VINT version successfully. Tomato also works great on it.

Good luck!

way2evil
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Look into the Dlink routers. The DIR-655 is probably the best bang-for-your-buck router out there. It has a feature called DHCP Reservation, which is what you are looking for.

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Look into the Tomato firmware for the WRT family of routers.

»www.polarcloud.com/tomato

Alot of people like over the DD-WRT firmware.

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Why not just assign the PC a fixed IP? That should be quite possible. With an old BEFSR41, you can assign static IPs and still use DHCP for other machines on the LAN. Or just use static for all. I would hope the same would be true on any newer Linksys routers.

On a BEFSR41, the first machine needs the IP of 192.168.1.20, and any other machines after that get an increment of 5 - so ...1.25, 1.30, etc.

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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

said by VikingBob See Profile :

Why not just assign the PC a fixed IP? That should be quite possible. With an old BEFSR41, you can assign static IPs and still use DHCP for other machines on the LAN. Or just use static for all. I would hope the same would be true on any newer Linksys routers.

On a BEFSR41, the first machine needs the IP of 192.168.1.20, and any other machines after that get an increment of 5 - so ...1.25, 1.30, etc.
My problem with statically assigning IPs at the level of each PC is trying to keep track of what the IP of each PC is... and if I ever want to dynamically assign an IP, one of the statically assigned devices may cause a conflict.

It would be nice to be able to manipulate all of my devices from one central point.
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Re: Router that can assign a specific IP by MAC

Even with the router you have, you can assign a static IP to just one PC, and still have all the others use DHCP. The router won't assign an IP address that is already in use on the network, so there should be no conflicts. See page 38-39 of your model's userguide.

Edited to add.. I'm not aware of any Linksys routers that will allow you to assign an IP by MAC address, but that would be a handy feature. The solution I noted does the same job, though.

CylonRed
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Should not be a problem - assign static IP's outside of the DHCP pool - no conflicts. On a piece of tape - put the static ip on the outside of the PC or in a notebook with your main PC.

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Load DD-WRT and forget about the IP address -- use hostnames, the DHCP sever that DD-WRT uses, when correctly configured (very easy web-UI) will lookup hostname to IP address based on the hostname your PCs give the router when requesting a DHCP lease.

You can also do the static leases, if you so desire.
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