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openbox9
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Re: Needed for customers
said by Jeffrey  :I was wondering how the average person was going to be able to meter their own use. I doubt that average people have anything to worry about with a 250 GB/mth cap, whether they can monitor their usage or not. | |
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| said by openbox9 :said by Jeffrey :I was wondering how the average person was going to be able to meter their own use. I doubt that average people have anything to worry about with a 250 GB/mth cap, whether they can monitor their usage or not. This is probably true, but as more people get exposed to services that require large downloads, over time, the average person may need to become aware.
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Alexandria, VA | Agreed. I also expect Comcast (and other providers) to increase their caps over time as infrastructure allows and applications/content become available that drive the average person's usage. | |
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| said by openbox9 :I also expect Comcast (and other providers) to increase their caps over time as infrastructure allows and applications/content become available that drive the average person's usage. If there are caps in place, venture capitalists are less likely to invest in the development of bandwidth-using applications/content.
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| Are you suggesting that Internet applications/content will plateau at their current state when caps are imposed? I don't believe that to be true at all. If anything, we'll see better thought and efficiency in development of applications/content. Furthermore, if venture capitalists truly see dollar signs in future development of applications/content, they should seriously look at the venture from content development to delivery to the consumer when they're throwing money around. All too often around the Internet, it seems they forget about the "delivery to the consumer" part. | |
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| said by openbox9 :Are you suggesting that Internet applications/content will plateau at their current state when caps are imposed? I don't believe that to be true at all. If anything, we'll see better thought and efficiency in development of applications/content. Furthermore, if venture capitalists truly see dollar signs in future development of applications/content, they should seriously look at the venture from content development to delivery to the consumer when they're throwing money around. All too often around the Internet, it seems they forget about the "delivery to the consumer" part. Well can we start with the idiocy that is encapsulating .FLV in TCP?
Secondly, I'll pay my ISP for my communications needs. I don't ever want the situation where my ISP is double-dealing behind my back -- steering me to the content he wants me to use because he's made a special deal with its provider.
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| said by funchords :I don't ever want the situation where my ISP is double-dealing behind my back -- steering me to the content he wants me to use because he's made a special deal with its provider. I meant for investors to build out infrastructure, not slip money into the greasy palms of incumbent ISPs. | |
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Comcast is already dealing behind your back, wake up!!!
They block ISP's en masse from connecting with their system on the pretext of "blocking spammers" but what it means is email doesn't get to you (or "me" or my family, or...) unless the email comes from a source they approve. then to make it worse they send back an error code with some message indicating the email address is no good (mine, that is) or is "not functioning", or the account doesn't exist, or whatever comes next in their random excuse generators...
I lost a job because of it, they told my bank that my account didn't exist, they said i wasn't allowed to use the email account (like I was committing some sort of fraud...)
What it boils down to is that I PAY THEM yet I am screwed because they seem to get into feuds with other ISP's on a regular basis, or because there is no revenue stream from that area (is it all kickbacks, rebates, and payoffs?) - anyhow, I complained, went as fart as petitioning my local government to rescind their franchise. They "fixed the problem" and they rejected all the email from my credit card issuer and my bank the same day, and do still.
Behind my back? - they maintain they do not reject electronic communications like that, or even if they do, its their system so they can run it however they see fit. (contractual and legal issues there , no doubt) - ALL THIS AND THEY DO NOT EVEN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE BLOCKING COMMUNICATIONS OR ELECTRONIC STREAMS SENT TO YOU !!!
They seem to do the same with their VOIP phone service.
I have not received, and likely still do not get calls (not email, PHONE CALLS) from certain people or providers (like Ohio Bell, not some made up carrier) because they say that the transmitted data originates from a source that has been listed as allowing - [NOT CREATING OR KNOWING ABOUT BUT JUST ALLOWING] unsolicited and/or harassing communications to be sent via their switch(es) - Blocking my phone calls because comcast's (3rd party, outsourced, in etheopi-afganist-argentin-exico) blacklist publishers don't like the company that [my sister, cousin, insurance agent, etc] gets their service from... AND, AGAIN, THEY DO NOT TELL ME THAT PEOPLE TRIED TO SEND ME ANYTHING OR TRIED TO CALL. THEY ALSO DO NOT TELL THE OTHER PARTIES THAT THEY CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH YOU DUE TO A N ISSUE BETWEEN PROVIDERS OR NETWORKS OR THAT YOUR COMMUNICATIONS ARE FILTERED - THEY JUST SEEM TO RANDOMLY ISSUE ERROR MESSAGES, NONE OF WHICH ARE HONEST AT FACE VALUE, OR PLAY RECORDINGS THAT SAY MY NUMBER IS NOT IN SERVICE (the same one you get when someone didn't pay their bill)OR... They also won't admit doing it, unless you get someone to pull up the switch and trace the errors, or whatever its called, and then the response id that that they didn't block it, someone else did... SURE, the someone else who they contract to do it.
Face it I cannot communicate with anyone who hasn't made a special deal with someone. And I can't seem to make any kind of deal with comcast. -
I cringe in typing this, bit I really miss the RCN life - and the RCN customer service, and the RCN way of dealing with business. IF I paid them, I got what I paid for, and if I agreed to their up sell pitches, I got more than I expected in return.
Unfortunately, I could not afford the bill when it jumped from 129.00 per month to 298.00 (with no notice, and no change in service...) - And, face it, now, after experiencing the comcastic (maybe com-dishonest?) horror show, I think I'd give up a meal or two a day if that would get me back there!
I know, I digress... | |
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