pnh102
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Since when is it the taxpayers' responsibility to guarantee peoples' "right" to watch TV anyway? If people who watch TV care enough about the long-overdue DTV transition, they can go take care of this themselves.
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spamd
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Rockford, IL | Can't wait until Feb 17 gets here. So we can stop wasting money and time on this issue. |
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tschmidt
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Coupon program is not taxpayer funded.
As part of the digital TV transition FCC auctioned UHF channels 52-69. Auction generated billions in revenue. To compensate people for making analog TV obsolete a small portion of this revenue is being used to fund the coupon program.
/tom |
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danny9
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said by pnh102  :Since when is it the taxpayers' responsibility to guarantee peoples' "right" to watch TV anyway? If people who watch TV care enough about the long-overdue DTV transition, they can go take care of this themselves. Agreed!
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BinaryXtreme
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I totally agree. Isn't television entertainment? Why not government coupons for me to go to the movies and play miniature golf. Oh yes, bowling and golf certificates should be mandatory too. Not to mention that this is pretty clear. If you can't understand the conversion, let me give you some advice.
1. Turn off your television.
2. Unplug it from the wall.
3. Get a rubber mallet.
4. Start bashing yourself in the head with the mallet. That is your new free form of entertainment. Also, don't worry about any brain damage from the head blows because it really doesn't make a difference when one has no thought process to begin with. |
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John Galt
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said by tschmidt :Coupon program is not taxpayer funded.As part of the digital TV transition FCC auctioned UHF channels 52-69. Auction generated billions in revenue. To compensate people for making analog TV obsolete a small portion of this revenue is being used to fund the coupon program. /tom What Tom said...
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AMDUSER
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I've got a better idea, how about we turn off the analog right now. If they haven't prepared by now, the people with analog OTA probably will not be ready come Febuary. |
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| said by AMDUSER :I've got a better idea, how about we turn off the analog right now. If they haven't prepared by now, the people with analog OTA probably will not be ready come Febuary. Agreed.. Cause if they cannot afford a $49 set top box, then maybe they need to be out working and not sitting around watching TV. |
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keyboard5684
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Youngsville, PA | reply to John Galt
All I got out of that was...
"SMALL portion of this revenue" |
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pnh102
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said by tschmidt :Coupon program is not taxpayer funded. If that is true (I don't believe that anything touched by Uncle Sam costs taxpayers nothing), then the buyers of the spectrum should have run the coupon program themselves, or better yet, just give the money to the companies making the boxes so they could be sold for less to begin with, instead of going through this coupon crap.
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BF69
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said by pnh102 :Since when is it the taxpayers' responsibility to guarantee peoples' "right" to watch TV anyway? If people who watch TV care enough about the long-overdue DTV transition, they can go take care of this themselves. No taxpayer $ were used for this. Maybe next time getting some FACTS before posting stupidity would be good. |
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pnh102
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| said by BF69 :No taxpayer $ were used for this. Maybe next time getting some FACTS before posting stupidity would be good. Yes, you should.
If you bothered to read the article, which clearly you didn't, because you posted this idiocy, you would have learned that the government is being asked to pump more money into the program. Where does government get its money from?
I'll type it real slow so you understand... the government gets its money from taxpayers.
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BK
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Wheaton, IL | Umm.. maybe you should do a little research...
The money came from auctioning off spectrum to companies. So definitely not taxpayers. |
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pnh102
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| said by BK :Umm.. maybe you should do a little research... The money came from auctioning off spectrum to companies. So definitely not taxpayers. Again.
The linked article is stating that the government is being asked to pour more money into this program over and beyond what was original provided by the companies to pay for the coupons.
Again.
The government gets its money from taxpayers.
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BF69
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said by pnh102 :said by BF69 :No taxpayer $ were used for this. Maybe next time getting some FACTS before posting stupidity would be good. Yes, you should. If you bothered to read the article, which clearly you didn't, because you posted this idiocy, you would have learned that the government is being asked to pump more money into the program. Where does government get its money from? I'll type it real slow so you understand... the government gets its money from taxpayers. Boy even more stupidity.
A) it has been PROVEN that the money for these coupons are NOT taxpayer funded.
B) The extra money will come from the same source as the original funds.
just how more stupid do you want to make yourself look.
please do RESEARCH before posting.
Also I find the people that whine the most about taxpayer dollars hardly pay any taxes at all, if any. |
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tschmidt
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said by pnh102 : The government gets its money from taxpayers. In most cases yes. This is different.
Government made billions auctioning off RF spectrum. A small portion of those proceeds is being used to fund the Coupon program. The issue is whether or not to increase that amount. It is still much less then what the auction took in. This issue is more of a cash flow problem then a lack of funding. If funding is not increase most likely outcome is a delay in issuing cards. Cards automatically expire and redemption rate has been relatively low. As cards expire and not redeemed new cards can be issued.
If you are arguing government should not have auctioned the spectrum but rather given it away that is a different issue.
Seems to me Cards are true to fundamental notion of fairness. Government reduced private property value by selling RF spectrum. The cards compensate those who have lost private property as a result of this action.
Perhaps I misunderstand your objection. Are you not in favor of private property? Are you not in favor of restitution when government uses its power to take private property away from citizens?
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axus
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That's like arguing that spending money from your checking account is different than spending money from your savings account |
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BF69
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Camden, TN | reply to tschmidt
He's just ignorant of the issue. The auction raised $19.6 billion of which $1.34 bill was used for coupons. Even another $1 bil would be NOTHING. especially considering the government was only expecting to get $10 bil in the first place. |
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Since when is it the taxpayers' responsibility to guarantee peoples' "right" to watch TV anyway?
MAYBE someone can tell me, WHEN did watching a tv or even local channels BECOME A RIGHT that people in the USA have?
watching or owning a tv is not a necessity item,(like food,water,rct)
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It's the government's responsibility since it's the gov't "breaking" their TV's and same gov't who made nearly $20B off of spectrum auctions. They can kick in a few more bucks from the DTV auction revenues for coupons. |
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