Re: Am I the only one in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21686099 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:28:00 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:28:00 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21707341 PGHammer :
said by SterlingJ85 See Profile :

Who thinks this guy is a complete idiot?
Actually, not even close. Jim Cramer (CNBC) also agrees the guy is a few fries short of a Happy Meal, especially about VZ. This same character is notorious for not liking companies that spend serious amounts of money on R&D or capital expenditures or both (among his other notable-but-wrongheaded pans: Intel, Symantec, IBM after spinning off Global Storage to Hitachi and the PC operations to Lenovo, and Microsoft). Among this fella's hot picks: three companies that don't even *exist* any more - Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, and Merill Lynch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21707341 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:01:51 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21704693 PandaB : +22]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21704693 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:42:25 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21695076 L337 : +21 in Chicago]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21695076 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:17:42 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21692348 cob_ : +20]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21692348 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:54:56 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21691279 kamm :
said by STLresident See Profile :

Reading these boards is very entertaining. People speak like experts when it so happens they have no idea what they are talking about. I prefer making sure I have my facts correct before posting on a website.

Currently, all my services are with ATT (Home phone, internet, TV and Wireless). Besides home phone I have the premium packages for everything else.

Internet-18mbps down/1.5mbps up
TV-U400 (89 HD stations) (2HD/2SD streams at one time)
Wireless- iphone unlimited talk and data

All things added up brings my monthly service bill to just north of $300...

WHile you all rip att about the last mile you fail to realize that they are milking the copper for all its worth. TO be honest, it wouldn't suprise me if in 2 or 3 years ATT to announce that a majority of the last mile has been replaced with fiber.
ROFLMAO, look who's talking about not having any idea... :D

It's always funny when some clueless dude talks about others not having a clue... and he claims idiocies like 89 "HD" stations etc... :hmm:

...wake up, kid - you're clueless. Your so-called "HD" channels usually SD upconverted to 1280x1080i@low Mbit...

...unlimited iPhone data, ummmm, suuuuure...

...STFU and listen first, that's my advice to you, kid. ;)
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[/BQUOTE]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21691279 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:01:43 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689601 en102 : I agree.... and $300/month for that service is more than 3x what I pay for service... and I think that what I pay is still too much.
Of course, I'd love a $300/month mortgage... I have nieghbors paying $3000/month mortgage (and going into foreclosure)
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Canada = Hollywood North]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689601 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:21:02 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689349 bcoleman71 : +19]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689349 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:30:06 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689269 Millenniumle : You and I live in different worlds. :D

Just north of $300/month is my mortgage.

I can see where $300+ may seem small to someone living in areas of California where median home prices are half a million dollars and their incomes are substantial. In my world, it's crazy money to be spending on phone and a wire attached to the side of my home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689269 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:10:52 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689216 rawwhide : +18]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689216 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:00:03 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689206 Millenniumle : I wouldn't say nobody. :D

I dumped cable, internet, voip, and took up a Tracfone $10/month value plan. I didn't face starvation. I just realized how much money I was throwing away in order to have them in a time when gasoline was skyrocketing, food was going up, and natural gas was getting ever more expensive.

Almost everyone is going to buy tv, internet, and/or phone, most people need at least one of them, but the industry has to at least expect a slowdown in a recession. Less people signing up. Some dropping service altogether. Some looking for less expensive plans. Some looking for less expensive - less inclusive plans.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689206 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:57:04 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689163 DarkLogix : +17 (you are not alone)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21689163 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:45:47 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21688625 Big Dawg 23 : +16]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21688625 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:31:50 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21688600 blackstar : +15]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21688600 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:04:23 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21688099 ftthz : +14]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21688099 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:14:28 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687661 zed260 : +13]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687661 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:41:31 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687631 mr_alucas : +12]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687631 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:36:09 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687553 barn25 : +11 He is out of his mind to think that the long term investments verizon made aren't smart.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687553 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:17:48 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687489 MysticGogeta : +11 Great photo. It really shows how much of a schmuck he is.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687489 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:07:09 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687312 ITALIAN926 : +10 This guys a total 'tard. Verizons business is THRIVING in this down economy. Wait till they post their 4th quarter numbers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687312 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:37:31 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687200 STLresident : Reading these boards is very entertaining. People speak like experts when it so happens they have no idea what they are talking about. I prefer making sure I have my facts correct before posting on a website.

Currently, all my services are with ATT (Home phone, internet, TV and Wireless). Besides home phone I have the premium packages for everything else.

Internet-18mbps down/1.5mbps up
TV-U400 (89 HD stations) (2HD/2SD streams at one time)
Wireless- iphone unlimited talk and data

All things added up brings my monthly service bill to just north of $300...

WHile you all rip att about the last mile you fail to realize that they are milking the copper for all its worth. TO be honest, it wouldn't suprise me if in 2 or 3 years ATT to announce that a majority of the last mile has been replaced with fiber. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687200 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:22:14 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687077 Nightshade : +9

He's a moron and the stock investors who listened to him are idiots.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687077 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:57:36 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687045 battleop : Wait a minute.... I thought you could only telecommute with 100Mbps Symmetrical FIOS.

My wife was laid off and we decided to cut back on the movie channels and go from 10Mbps DSL to 2Mbps DSL because we don't HAVE to have that. I am on call 24x7x365 and sometimes I have to telecommute out side of normal business hours. I can and maintain a couple of remote desktop sessions and terminal sessions to routers and switches and talk on my VoIP phone using a 2Mb DSL circuit. I don't worry about big download, I've got 100Mbps (Not a consumer class circuit) at the office :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687045 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:51:39 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687034 Harddrive : +8]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21687034 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:48:55 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686913 en102 : Pretty much... Verizon (and Verizon wireless) are a bit more agressive as a company than AT&T is.

POTS: Both rape customers for it
DSL: AT&T is definately cheaper, and cheaper to bundle
Video: VZ has a more desirable product from a customer standpoint. AT&T 'may' have a decent product, but has restricted itself by assuming that nobody has more than 1 HD set (or more than 1 HD set running at a time). This will haunt them in the future.
Internet: VZ with FiOS is the better product...period. Uverse is capped by the last mile.
Wireless: Varies by area. VZ has sold itself as a superior product, but is also a walled garden. AT&T 3G network isn't complete, but has potential as it has a simpler upgrade to LTE than VZW does.

In general, IMO, AT&T has stuck its neck out less, and has less debt to hang out to deploy Uverse... but then will have to keep updating it. VZ, on the otherhand, has more risk, but should be able to come out without significant upgrades to infrastructure once FiOS is deployed.

Both have decent stock values. Want to see 'poor' look at either Sprint or Qwest.

»finance.yahoo.com/q/co?s=T]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686913 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:24:23 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686848 en102 : I'm not the average DSLR sub :D

Even though I telecommute, I stick with the cheapest overall plan ($89/month 'All the best' package on Cable), the $59/month 2 line wireless (and 15% service discount), and no text or data plan (month 2 month on data as needed).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686848 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:09:18 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686656 battleop : Most people will give up the higher prices, higher profit plans as times get tight. They may not subscribe to HBO, Showtime, Starz etc but they will subscribe to the lower tiers.

The average non DSLR type user will go for price before speed. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686656 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:29:02 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686325 anon : I'd but VZ now but I gotta pay bills. Maybe in a bit.

One thing's for sure: I'll take Verizon FiOS over U-Verse, and Verizon DSL over ATT DSL. Both telcos are rather lame in their wireless offerings, but Verizon seems more progressive than ATT, and their wireless customer base, which has a high ARPU, will soon be the largest in the US. And FiOS is priced higher than UVerse because services provided are better, at least for the internet. I'll pay 70 for 20/20 fiber over 65 for 18/1.5 that degrades if youzre online.

Verizon never has to upgrade their last mile ever again, ATT does...and copper degrades much quicker than fiber.

Verizon and ATT both have internet backbones, so I'd call it a wash there. But Verizon is piping that backbone to customers with FiOS to a much larger extent than ATT is. And ATT is capping.
Verizon all the way. Short T for all it's worth (*shrugs* not much). iPhone schmiPhone. It's a premium product that has to be heavily subsidized, and the ARPU minimum is so high that people will be turned off. Wireless and very high speed internet are the growth areas...plus triple play if you're good enough at all three plays. Verizon is coming out with VoIP soon, with tons of features. So they win.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686325 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:17:46 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686471 David : +7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686471 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:57:20 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686460 Cogdis : +6
Verizon just upped the dividend and had a great quarter]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686460 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:55:36 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686405 Chaldo : +5]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686405 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:45:41 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686317 en102 : While I haven't read his report, I can say the following is true:

1. Many may not cancel wireless service, but may adjust their plans (i.e. cut out data or messaging plans, or move to a lower voice plan)
2. POTS lines are overpriced... they are going.
3. TV service (Uverse) and many services are expensive. Many may cut out these services if they deem them unnecessary, or cut the 'fluff' bundle. Eg. I 'can' get OTA of +40 channels here in SoCal, do I need TV from TWC or AT&T? I can get a Internet + VoIP package (or go wireless) and save.
4. Expansion - Wireless is nearing a limit we're nearing 200 million wireless in the US.- and I expect growth of new customers to slow.

I'd give up having a 6-18Mbps to replace with a 1.5-3Mbps if I was to save a few $$ / month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686317 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:32:18 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686308 margaf77 :
said by SterlingJ85 See Profile :

Who thinks this guy is a complete idiot?
+1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686308 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:29:37 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686277 53059959 : +4

lets keep it going!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686277 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:24:21 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686226 b10010011 : Who's the bigger idiot?

This guy?

Or the people who read what he says and dump their stock causing these companies stocks to plummet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686226 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:13:58 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686141 DrModem : +3

Nobody's going to give up phone/internet unless they face starvation if they don't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686141 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:57:56 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686121 srobmw : +2]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686121 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:55:02 EDT Re: Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686099 SteveCon : +1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686099 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:51:23 EDT Am I the only one http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21686039 SterlingJ85 : Who thinks this guy is a complete idiot?
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