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funchords
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reply to espaeth

Re: Slight clarification / correction

said by espaeth:

said by funchords:

How do you figure? Putting a quota on a DSCP means that it reverts to default behavior if the quota is passed. The ISP never has to look at application/protocol.
Only the users that configure their applications to set DSCP values will benefit from such an implementation.

Even with per-connection quotas, it's a pretty safe assumption that a minority of end-users will have applications that will mark traffic. It's also a pretty safe bet that P2P apps will be disproportionately represented in that group.
As I said -- if Comcast (or AT&T) were to do it, I think the entire world would follow.

Actually, I predict the VOIP and gaming apps would be the first to rush to take advantage of such a thing, while P2P file-sharing apps themselves would either opt for best-effort or less-than-best-effort (a lower-priority bulk class, if such were made available).

I'll say that again, I don't think there is any interest among the community of P2P developers to harm the network. They know that an efficient network works better for them.

Sure -- It's predictable that hacks and mods would come out that tried to exploit faster markings, which is why I think they should be quota'd by the ISPs (actually, I think Brutus the Enforcer should pay the snot a personal visit, but that's just me). An ISP can quota a VOIP/Gaming DSCP to 3x-5x the width of the loosest of the VOIP codecs and still avoid making cheating at all attractive to a P2P user.
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