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S_engineer
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

reply to fiberguy

Re: I love..

Well you're right about the dial up dilemma. Nobody that enjoys HSI would leap back into the stone age of dial up, it's too impractical in this day and age. However, the monthly erosion of services coupled with the implementation of caps, traffic management tools, and higher prices are now making me question just how much I require these services.
What the heck was the purpose of enticing everyone with DOCSIS 3 if the subscriber can't use it to its fullest potential. Wow, I can reach the "best effort" faster?
The carriers have learned from our government how to implement policies under the premise of a false crisis (bandwidth crisis). It's all bullsh*t geared towards putting the subscriber on metered billing.
Its just a matter of time.
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- Moe Larry and Curly (MEN IN BLACK, 1934)...These are the guys we have in Congress


tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
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join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ

said by S_engineer:

Nobody that enjoys HSI would leap back into the stone age of dial up, it's too impractical in this day and age.
exactly. the carriers know this and thats why they have us by the proverbial nuts.
caps, overages, throttling, mafiaa collusion, rate hikes, poor customer service, bring it all. they know the average customer won't care or won't switch. they may mouth off, but the words never have any potency behind them. capitalism at its finest: how can we screw our customers for more money day? (tm)

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
kudos:3

...you don't think it has ANYTHING to do with the fight of the path of least resistance do you? ie: those few that snub their nose in the air calling "it's mine and I'll use it how I want" attitudes. Those few people cause a lot of problems for the rest of is.

People are pushing their hands and they have no choice but to have protections in place to deal with it.. and if not for now, for later as well. Technology and upgrades can't keep up with bandwidth hogs and sites and purposes that feed them (p2p)..

So sorry, I disagree. For MANY people that complain about the day time or evening slow downs, you should be happy that they are increasing the protections. And, to say "upgrade your service".. well, if anyone knows anything cable the cable environment.. no matter how much you upgrade, someone's going to cause issues. It's a shared medium that can be abused. And FURTHER, nationwide upgrades don't happen over night when you're talking about rebuilding plant.. it's easier to update a data center with some hardware to put a fix in place until they can play catch up.

You guys also have this notion that they sit back and do nothing every day, which is also just plain wrong. It's not you going to the store and buying a faster wireless router and plugging it in. It's not like buying a whole new computer or faster NIC. People think that they should upgrade their networks every year or something.. what you don't realize is that there is work ongoing all the time to advance their networks. And, for some who think that they should just rebuild their entire feeder system.. I won't even go there.

All this "I want I want I want" equals just as much greed as what people throw back the way of the provider.. it takes time. I think that going from up to 1.5 to the 30 and 50 meg speeds we're starting to see today in just 8 years is pretty damn good if you ask me.

And, you've yet to be screwed.. you're getting a service for about the same price you've always paid (average and majority consumer) so being screwed becuase they're not jumping to give you fiber over night is absurd* (*the most common complaint)



S_engineer
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

Wait a second, since when is using what your paying for a point of contention. The excuse these companies are using to implement these traffic management systems is "the bandwidth hogs are using too much", and you've fallen hook line and sinker. First of all, (at the time) unlimited plans mean...pay attention to the keyword here...UNLIMITED.
In a rush to become bigger, these companies oversold already taxed networks. Now to placate the shareholders, the carriers have to figure out a way to incrementally upgrade because they can't spend whats necessary to upgrade their networks to meet the demand of an unlimited network.
In come the excuses...blame the bandwidth hogs...blame the lack of bandwidth, and best of all is that is mostly the p2p networks.
This is not an argument about "I want I want I want" , rather it's always an argument about "I want whats spelled out in my contract". Plus, what about the millions of dollars in tax incentives that were given to carriers from then President Clinton for the purpose of HSI?
Did you label them as greedy too because they "wanted it"?
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