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tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
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reply to bky

Re: Google routers

said by bky:

Ask any Cisco employee or reseller
i am

said by bky:

You are telling me that $60K justifies the manufacturing costs for a Cisco ASA 5550 with SSL VPN capabilities or $30K for a 6500 8-port gigabit switch module
have you *seen* the testing that goes into one of those things? do you know the man-hours of r&d that go into one of those devices? sure, they do offer support in smartnet. sure, it is expensive to maintain said service contracts. have you ever had to use a smartnet for hardware repairs? i've had a *generic* hardware support contract give me a device the next day to replace my broken one. i'm sorry, if i (or any of my customers) are paying for this support, then i will take it.
how is this any different than a provider charging you thousdand plus per month for a t1 line? it goes for support, overhead, etc.

said by bky:

It's ALL marketing.
so is everything else. cisco is no different.

said by bky:

Cisco has the staple because they got there first
and you don't think that it is because that they make good quality devices? what about kay-pro computers, or commodore? they were here first too, but have they survived? they either died or were bought out.

said by bky:

In fact, Cisco uses ghost manufacturers to produce most (if not all) of the gear they sell anyway
they may contract out for the actual assembly once the design is done, but what do you think about the r&d and design?
who actually manufactures their own stuff anymore? once the design is setup, contract out your specs and go.

said by bky:

If you really believe that you're smoking bad crack
nah, i make my own. higher quality

q.

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