  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? |
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| said by TKJunkMail :There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end. Holy cow I think for once I agree with TK Junk Mail. These are the same companies who refused to expand their network out to the rural areas and blocked the latest in Internet connectivity technology to befit themselves where if they in turn spent the money on improving their infrastructure I think they'd be in a better position.
I see this as just another cash grab hell maybe I become an ISP and than go to Washington and plead my case if its anyway the 856Billion bailout for Wall Street went than it should be quite easy. |
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| reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail :....So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end. millions? I think you significantly overestimate the "flow thru". I believe most, if not all, of any money thrown at the ILECs will be as effective as the $350 billion thrown at the banking industry.
In other words, a complete waste. |
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| reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail :There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end. It must suck to live in such a pessimistic world. |
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1 edit | said by Matt :said by TKJunkMail :There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end. It must suck to live in such a pessimistic world. I see it as being realistic. And then use that info to take advantage of the system as it is. If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by Matt :said by TKJunkMail :There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end. It must suck to live in such a pessimistic world. I see it as being realistic. And then use that info to take advantage of the system as it is. Realistically, you're a pessimist? So the glass is always half empty, but at least that really is water in it? |
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| reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail :If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system. Which is precisely why I respect your opinion, but would never vote for you for public office or ask you to sit on my board of directors. This country needs new life ... I'm tired of you stodgy, backroom good 'ol white boys ruining everything.  |
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1 edit | said by Matt :said by TKJunkMail :If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system. Which is precisely why I respect your opinion, but would never vote for you for public office or ask you to sit on my board of directors. This country needs new life ... I'm tired of you stodgy, backroom good 'ol white boys ruining everything. LOL. Well now, be of good cheer. You now will get to see minorities and women "ruining everything". 
"The more things change, the more they stay the same" -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? |
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| Ha ha, I grew in up Greensboro, NC, the home of the Woolworth lunch-counter sit-ins ... and on top of that most of my life was raised by a single Mom. I went to a High School that was 90% Black, 5% "Other" (We were the only ESL school) and 5% White. All during the Rodney King Trial and verdict. So I'm well versed in what you speak of. 
I will guarantee you one thing, I have drunk the Obama Kool-Aid, but I also know what a sugar crash is like. I'm not expecting him to fix everything that ails us in 4 years flat, but if we're not well on our way with plans clearly laid out ... I likely won't vote for him again.
Unless of course my choice is another Republican like the last few I've had the pleasure of choosing between. |
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| reply to TKJunkMail If you saw what I saw and spoke out in 2001 as I did you too would find out that they don't like some one pointing out that the corperation was being raided by contract companies. Notification was sent certified letter in 2001 to Joe N.
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| reply to Matt said by Matt :said by TKJunkMail :If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system. Which is precisely why I respect your opinion, but would never vote for you for public office or ask you to sit on my board of directors. This country needs new life ... I'm tired of you stodgy, backroom good 'ol white boys ruining everything. Lol TK, don't feed the kool-aid squad. |
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| reply to Chiyo said by Chiyo :Holy cow I think for once I agree with TK Junk Mail. The only reason he's saying that is because *his* sheriff isn't running the town.
You're not necessarily agreeing with him. |
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| Regardless of who's sheriff is running the town, at best, any of these companies are more interested in pumping stock than anything else. Every company wants a handout these days. I can at least hope that infrastructure investment will create US based jobs.
I think all of these bailouts will do nothing but cause the government to print money and burn us all with trillion dollar debt loads and no incentives for investment or recovery.
I.E. What good does giving a mega corp money if a) Companies have no reason to 'invest' in the US - labor, laws and governments are a little more business friendly in places like India, China, Brazil. b) This country is 'broke' - you can give money to companies, however, nobody has money or desire to purchase ANY products. Eg. Giving money to car companies won't help much as people are still not buying.
Its something that won't be fixed overnight. Infrastructure investment at least has _some_ benefit for most of us. -- Canada = Hollywood North |
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1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail :Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. His mantra of change is the real deal... He was being honest about the fact that the hands up the president's sock-pocket rear end have changed.  -- "This is a bus. You know how big a bus is?" |
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| said by NetAdmin :said by TKJunkMail :Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. His mantra of change is the real deal... He was being honest about the fact that the hands up the president's sock-pocket rear end have changed. Ya wanna bet?
Signed, Hillary C. and the cabinet of her husband's second term. 
At this point, the only thing that will "change" is the crew of jerks in DC sticking it to us..... -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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| said by N3OGH :Ya wanna bet? Yeah, different puppet masters than the one's behind the Bush administration...  -- "This is a bus. You know how big a bus is?" |
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| reply to Matt said by Matt :I will guarantee you one thing, I have drunk the Obama Kool-Aid, but I also know what a sugar crash is like. I'm not expecting him to fix everything that ails us in 4 years flat, but if we're not well on our way with plans clearly laid out ... I likely won't vote for him again. PREDICTION: I can almost guarantee you that nobody will vote for Obama again. The fact remains that (whomever you blame for it) this country is facing very hard times. Economically, militarily, and globally there is a hell of a lot going on that needs to be fixed. Obama's whole campaign of promised "change" is what likely got him elected. Now, given that it would be impossible for anyone to completely rectify the worlds problems in 4 years there will be millions of people in this country who feel let down and pissed. Worse yet, with Obama very publicly stating that he intends to completely dismantle our intelligence gathering systems (CIA, information extraction from terrorists doctrine, national security, etc.) God forbid something terrible happens again (unfortunately likely with his proposed changes). Obama's doctrine of "pacify the enemy and all will be well" will backfire on him the minute one American is killed. I honestly feel bad for the guy, as he (and his "liberal" administration) will be personally held responsible for everything that is likely to happen in the next 4 years. -- Комитет государственной безопасности
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| reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail :There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end. More true words have seldom been spoken |
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| reply to en102 Throw my hat into the ring on this...
I like to see what kind of jobs could be made from this Infrastructure plan. If I'm getting the jist of it, rebuilding our old highway system, fixing/rebuilding of bridges, expansion in some areas, railway improvements. One thing I don't get, is all of that is temporary jobs for a few years or a decade. I don't see them tackling the core problem lack of industry to create more jobs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to cut our corporate tax rate to 20%. At the same time, getting the states to cut their corporate tax rates too? Then cutting the Federal corporate tax rate would actually work. If we cut only the Federal rate, it wouldn't have any effect due to the states high tax rates too.
And shouldn't we be putting a government mandate on broadband deployment in the US? Especially in urban centers that house lots of businesses that are dependent on a good internet connection at a reasonable price. If a business is able to send it's critical data at a fast speed and beat it's competitor at that same task, wouldn't that offer an advantage?
I would advocate the US government create or acquire Federal Work projects. Turn such projects into hard assets that continue to generate income year after year like the Hoover Dam. I believe that Dam holds the record for being the only Federal Works project that has paid itself off and makes money. Something we should be looking into for some extra cash. Create jobs and income for the government, just needs to be done right.
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| reply to wifi4milez said by wifi4milez :PREDICTION: I can almost guarantee you that nobody will vote for Obama again. There were quite a few folks saying during the campaign that regardless of who wins they're likely to be a one termer. |
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