mr sean
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...And not simply competition for funds from the stimulus package. Encourage start-ups and small carriers by insuring a slice of the pie. Utilizing already existing government incentives such as Community Connect Broadband Grant Program may help to funnel resources.
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Matt
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| said by mr sean  :...And not simply competition for funds from the stimulus package. Encourage start-ups and small carriers by insuring a slice of the pie. Utilizing already existing government incentives such as Community Connect Broadband Grant Program may help to funnel resources. I think we'll see a move toward a Telecom Act of 1996 type strategy. Obama has proven that he knows how to research, listen to smart people, review history, and make the most intelligent informed decision based on all the available data. |
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pnh102
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| said by Matt :I think we'll see a move toward a Telecom Act of 1996 type strategy. Obama has proven that he knows how to research, listen to smart people, review history, and make the most intelligent informed decision based on all the available data. Oh geez.
I suppose that explains his decision to push Congress to punt on the DTV deadline. For someone so "smart" he shows complete ignorance about how such transitions work and how much everyone involved has invested into making it happen.
Something tells me that Obama's DTV "strategy" is probably the tip of the iceberg regarding his overall strategy on "national broadband plans."
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Matt
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| said by pnh102 :said by Matt :I think we'll see a move toward a Telecom Act of 1996 type strategy. Obama has proven that he knows how to research, listen to smart people, review history, and make the most intelligent informed decision based on all the available data. Oh geez. I suppose that explains his decision to push Congress to punt on the DTV deadline. For someone so "smart" he shows complete ignorance about how such transitions work and how much everyone involved has invested into making it happen. Something tells me that Obama's DTV "strategy" is probably the tip of the iceberg regarding his overall strategy on "national broadband plans." Well, a lot of people may have invested a lot to make it happen, but if it's not going to happen PROPERLY, then the right decision is to delay. If you read, no one thinks we're ready for the transition .. NO ONE. So delaying to avoid a catastrophe sounds like the smart decision to me. Let it progress and fall into a million shattered pieces without proper planning sounds like a certain Administration we're all almost rid of. |
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pnh102
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| said by Matt :If you read, no one thinks we're ready for the transition .. NO ONE. For the previous DTV deadline, which I think was in 2004 or 2006, I would totally agree with you. Back then TVs with digital tuners and converter boxes were hard to come by so many people would have been inconvenienced.
However, this is 2009. TVs with digital tuners are plentiful. So are converter boxes. All satellite TV and cable subscribers are ready. The only people who are not ready are those who are too cheap to go and buy converter boxes at full price because they were too lazy to sign up for the coupon program. These people have no one to blame but themselves and it is wrong for Obama to hold back the companies which want to invest and have already made significant investments in the old analog TV spectrum on the account on a handful of lazy stragglers.
Obama clearly has no understanding of how technological transitions or migrations work given that he advocated this approach. Perhaps he should have surrounded himself people who have more experience in this field.
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jay_rm
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said by Matt :So delaying to avoid a catastrophe sounds like the smart decision to me. Let it progress and fall into a million shattered pieces without proper planning sounds like a certain Administration we're all almost rid of. Catastrophe ?!?!?!?
A small portion of the OTA TV watchers won't be able to watch Jerry Springer ? Oh, the Humanity ! Every OTA station has been running crawlers and PSA spots for OVER A YEAR concerning the conversion and some people still don't get it ? Tough $**t. Like your sig says, 'You can't fix stupid', not even with delays and micro-management Obama-BS. He should stick to pushing around the NCAA and 'fixing' the BCS - how Presidential !
The government sucked $20 billion dollars out of providers to sell them that spectrum and now their gonna hold it for ransom.
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Matt
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I was suggesting you read the articles that state the 2009 transition isn't ready and the government program is out of funds to provide for DTV convert coupons. IN addition to the fact that scores, not a mere handful, of people aren't ready.
Again, some numbers I've seen thrown around are that out of the 110 million households with TV service, 11 million aren't ready and aren't even aware. Have you ever planned a migration and gone ahead when 10% of your customers weren't aware? So while you can harp of what you perceive as a lack of expertise from Obama and the people he relies on for planning, I'd say that shoe is most definitely on your foot. |
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gball
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NOCMan
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said by jay_rm :said by Matt :So delaying to avoid a catastrophe sounds like the smart decision to me. Let it progress and fall into a million shattered pieces without proper planning sounds like a certain Administration we're all almost rid of. Catastrophe ?!?!?!? A small portion of the OTA TV watchers won't be able to watch Jerry Springer ? Oh, the Humanity ! Every OTA station has been running crawlers and PSA spots for OVER A YEAR concerning the conversion and some people still don't get it ? Tough $**t. Like your sig says, 'You can't fix stupid', not even with delays and micro-management Obama-BS. He should stick to pushing around the NCAA and 'fixing' the BCS - how Presidential ! The government sucked $20 billion dollars out of providers to sell them that spectrum and now their gonna hold it for ransom. The Analog TV Spectrum has not been auctioned off yet. I believe the last auction was for analog cellular frequencies vacated in 2007. |
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| said by NOCMan :The Analog TV Spectrum has not been auctioned off yet. I believe the last auction was for analog cellular frequencies vacated in 2007. Nearly all of channels 52-69 have already been auctioned except for a small portion meant to be shared with public safety where the auction failed. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
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Well if they aren't aware by now then they probably havent been watching TV to begin with so it is a "none issue".
I have seen several commercials and news reports on this transition over the last year.
Eventually it just simply has to be done and then those that are not prepared will be forced to work it out. If you are advocating waiting until every single person is prepared, then it will never be done. And if you are saying no, but less than 11 million, then were do we draw the line and why are those people less important? Enough people are prepared to continue on. Do it now, let those that arent prepared then get what they need. |
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wtansill
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I really can't agree that someone missing "Wheel of Fortune", or "Oprah" is a great national calamity. Every station I watch has periodic messages about the impending cutover, and has had them for quite some time. There has been plenty of notice about this.
Airing messages apparently doesn't get through to these folks. A loss of signal will. |
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Matt
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Missing a TV show is not a big deal, but some of you may not be aware that TV is an integral part of the National Emergency Alert system. »www.fcc.gov/pshs/services/eas/ So simply saying "screw 11 million Americans" won't - and shouldn't - be allowed.
The digital transition (where it has occurred) has usually been disastrous.
Here's a quick quote from Robert X. Cringley:
In December, 2006 I was able to receive with acceptable quality ONE broadcast HD station on my HDTV. As of this morning – two years later — I am able to receive TWO acceptable HD signals.
I don’t live in the boonies. I don’t even live in the suburbs. I live less than seven miles from all five local HD transmission towers. I live in a colonial city that limits to 55 feet the maximum height of any building in my part of town. I have a name brand TV and a name brand antenna. Now my guess is that in the last two years digital receivers and antennas have both improved somewhat, but I should be able to get more than 40 percent of the signals that are supposed to be available.
»www.cringely.com/
We are not ready for this transition because we've had an scientifically inept baboon running the country for 8 years. So the right thing to do is to put the brakes on and implement a better strategy ... or "strategery" if that's what you're use to. |
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pnh102
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| said by Matt :Missing a TV show is not a big deal, but some of you may not be aware that TV is an integral part of the National Emergency Alert system. » www.fcc.gov/pshs/services/eas/ So simply saying "screw 11 million Americans" won't - and shouldn't - be allowed. Well, if these people value their own lives then they can go buy their own damn converter box at full price or a new TV with a digital tuner.
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pnh102
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said by Matt :I was suggesting you read the articles that state the 2009 transition isn't ready and the government program is out of funds to provide for DTV convert coupons. IN addition to the fact that scores, not a mere handful, of people aren't ready. And again, converter boxes and TVs with digital tuners are plentiful. If someone wants one and cannot get a coupon he/she can buy a box at full price and be done with it.
said by Matt :Again, some numbers I've seen thrown around are that out of the 110 million households with TV service, 11 million aren't ready and aren't even aware. I find that hard to believe. As others have mentioned and as I have seen, there's a DTV warning during practically every single commercial break now. They have DTV warnings in crawlers at the bottom of the screens of many TV shows. You would have to go out of your way to miss it.
said by Matt : Have you ever planned a migration and gone ahead when 10% of your customers weren't aware? Even if this is true, what is the worst that can happen? They wake up and see their TVs don't work and then they find out they need to go buy a new TV, get a box, or get cable or satellite. No Big Deal. It is not the end of the world if someone who doesn't care enough about TV to be informed about this change loses TV temporarily because of this change.
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Skippy25
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DTV does not necessarily mean HDTV so who gives a shit if you went from one HD show to 2 in 2 years.
As pointed out plenty above. If the ones that will be affected by this haven't gotten the message yet, then their TV watching habits don't suggest they really care much to begin with. And if it does and they still have not prepared themselves for it, then screw them for procrastinating. I bet they will get it to work within a couple days if it is of a concern and they do wakeup to find snow on the TV. |
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Matt
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| said by Skippy25 :DTV does not necessarily mean HDTV so who gives a shit if you went from one HD show to 2 in 2 years. He was only able to get 2 DTV signals out of 5 stations he previously had access to ... period. He didn't say anything about HDTV. |
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Skippy25
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Hazelwood, MO | In December, 2006 I was able to receive with acceptable quality ONE broadcast HD station on my HDTV. As of this morning – two years later — I am able to receive TWO acceptable HD signals.
That clearly says HD. |
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Matt
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| said by Skippy25 :In December, 2006 I was able to receive with acceptable quality ONE broadcast HD station on my HDTV. As of this morning – two years later — I am able to receive TWO acceptable HD signals.That clearly says HD. Name 1 station making the move to DTV that doesn't simulcast in HD? |
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said by Matt :Missing a TV show is not a big deal, but some of you may not be aware that TV is an integral part of the National Emergency Alert system. » www.fcc.gov/pshs/services/eas/ So simply saying "screw 11 million Americans" won't - and shouldn't - be allowed. Wasn't used on 9/11, that Cold War pork needs to die. |
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