Re: Don't expect anything to really change in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21715194 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:27:34 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:27:34 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21740003 wifi4milez :
said by bear73 See Profile :

I admire and praise your general sentiment, but must rain a little on your parade. You will never see Federal Military (ie. Active Duty/Reserves) in that position as it is illegal and against the intention of the military and Constitution. You MAY see Nat'l Guard as their job (as stated by Constitution) is to defend the home front. As to them already being paid, they are not paid unless activated, like training weekends or deployed worldwide. So, you aren't saving any money there, unless you pull them back from "over there". and if you do THAT, then you place more stress on an overly stressed military trying to cope with 2 war fronts and overseas basing requirements.

I am not so sure about that. It is illegal for the military to do police duties, however I dont think working in the airport constitutes that. There are always a few troops in the airports now, I wonder what status they have (active, reserve, guard, etc.). In either case, I would rather pay a reserve to man the baggage screening machine at the airport (in camo with a gun) any day over the idiots the TSA employs.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21740003 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:58:55 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21739956 bear73 : I admire and praise your general sentiment, but must rain a little on your parade. You will never see Federal Military (ie. Active Duty/Reserves) in that position as it is illegal and against the intention of the military and Constitution. You MAY see Nat'l Guard as their job (as stated by Constitution) is to defend the home front. As to them already being paid, they are not paid unless activated, like training weekends or deployed worldwide. So, you aren't saving any money there, unless you pull them back from "over there". and if you do THAT, then you place more stress on an overly stressed military trying to cope with 2 war fronts and overseas basing requirements.
As for the intention of Pres. Obama bringing the troops home? I believe that if it is done too quickly (ie. not listening VERY closely to the Generals on the ground) then we will just be going back over there or facing another Afghanistan(Taliban moved in after Russia moved out and we didn't support any pro-capitalism factions)
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

I am not sure if I am following you, as the terrorists have dramatically increased their attempts since 2001. I assume by your comments that you arent aware of how many terrorist attacks have been foiled over the past 8 years. The publicly available data (news bureaus, papers, tv, etc.) lists multiple accounts of this happening. One can only imagine that there are countless other events that have occurred that are still classified.
Real simple: if you've got a better than 60% failure-rate at finding bombs, then it's pretty safe to say that the only reason a jet hasn't been blotted out of the sky is because no one has bothered to try. There's similar failure rates for detecting objects that could be used to hijack a plane. It's a number that hasn't exactly been improving, in spite of "remedial training".
I totally agree that the TSA is a bunch of bumbling morons, and I agree that with regards to airline safety we have been largely lucky. I was referring to larger scale terrorist attacks that have been disrupted, I should have clarified that. I personally think that the TSA should be disbanded, all the employees fired, and the airports should instead be staffed with military personnel (national guard, etc.) who are carrying M16's. This would have numerous benefits, all of which are good. First, terrorists would think twice about pulling anything when they are faced with armed men in camo at the baggage screening area. Secondly, it would save the country millions (billions?) as we are already paying the soldiers/guardsmen/etc. for their services.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21723019 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:59:41 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21722846 nixen :
said by wifi4milez See Profile :

I am not sure if I am following you, as the terrorists have dramatically increased their attempts since 2001. I assume by your comments that you arent aware of how many terrorist attacks have been foiled over the past 8 years. The publicly available data (news bureaus, papers, tv, etc.) lists multiple accounts of this happening. One can only imagine that there are countless other events that have occurred that are still classified.
Real simple: if you've got a better than 60% failure-rate at finding bombs, then it's pretty safe to say that the only reason a jet hasn't been blotted out of the sky is because no one has bothered to try. There's similar failure rates for detecting objects that could be used to hijack a plane. It's a number that hasn't exactly been improving, in spite of "remedial training".
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said by nixen See Profile :

said by wifi4milez :

God forbid something terrible happens again (unfortunately likely with his proposed changes).
Do you think the terrorists are actually even trying? Our lovely airline security system has been running a better than 50% failure rate for finding "practice" bombs. You gotta figure that, with those rates, the only reason nothing's blown up the last several years is that no one has bothered to try.
I am not sure if I am following you, as the terrorists have dramatically increased their attempts since 2001. I assume by your comments that you arent aware of how many terrorist attacks have been foiled over the past 8 years. The publicly available data (news bureaus, papers, tv, etc.) lists multiple accounts of this happening. One can only imagine that there are countless other events that have occurred that are still classified.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21722340 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:21:39 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21722130 halfband : They would change their tune if the infrastructure built by the government was going to compete with the incumbents and not subsidize them.
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said by wifi4milez :

God forbid something terrible happens again (unfortunately likely with his proposed changes).
Do you think the terrorists are actually even trying? Our lovely airline security system has been running a better than 50% failure rate for finding "practice" bombs. You gotta figure that, with those rates, the only reason nothing's blown up the last several years is that no one has bothered to try.
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

PREDICTION: I can almost guarantee you that nobody will vote for Obama again.
There were quite a few folks saying during the campaign that regardless of who wins they're likely to be a one termer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21720792 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:06:24 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21720254 hacker90 : Throw my hat into the ring on this...

I like to see what kind of jobs could be made from this Infrastructure plan. If I'm getting the jist of it, rebuilding our old highway system, fixing/rebuilding of bridges, expansion in some areas, railway improvements. One thing I don't get, is all of that is temporary jobs for a few years or a decade. I don't see them tackling the core problem lack of industry to create more jobs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to cut our corporate tax rate to 20%. At the same time, getting the states to cut their corporate tax rates too? Then cutting the Federal corporate tax rate would actually work. If we cut only the Federal rate, it wouldn't have any effect due to the states high tax rates too.

And shouldn't we be putting a government mandate on broadband deployment in the US? Especially in urban centers that house lots of businesses that are dependent on a good internet connection at a reasonable price. If a business is able to send it's critical data at a fast speed and beat it's competitor at that same task, wouldn't that offer an advantage?

I would advocate the US government create or acquire Federal Work projects. Turn such projects into hard assets that continue to generate income year after year like the Hoover Dam. I believe that Dam holds the record for being the only Federal Works project that has paid itself off and makes money. Something we should be looking into for some extra cash. Create jobs and income for the government, just needs to be done right.

I guess that's it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21720254 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:56:52 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21718117 richdelb :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end.
More true words have seldom been spoken]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21718117 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:03:18 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21717029 wifi4milez :
said by Matt See Profile :

I will guarantee you one thing, I have drunk the Obama Kool-Aid, but I also know what a sugar crash is like. I'm not expecting him to fix everything that ails us in 4 years flat, but if we're not well on our way with plans clearly laid out ... I likely won't vote for him again.

PREDICTION: I can almost guarantee you that nobody will vote for Obama again. The fact remains that (whomever you blame for it) this country is facing very hard times. Economically, militarily, and globally there is a hell of a lot going on that needs to be fixed. Obama's whole campaign of promised "change" is what likely got him elected. Now, given that it would be impossible for anyone to completely rectify the worlds problems in 4 years there will be millions of people in this country who feel let down and pissed. Worse yet, with Obama very publicly stating that he intends to completely dismantle our intelligence gathering systems (CIA, information extraction from terrorists doctrine, national security, etc.) God forbid something terrible happens again (unfortunately likely with his proposed changes). Obama's doctrine of "pacify the enemy and all will be well" will backfire on him the minute one American is killed. I honestly feel bad for the guy, as he (and his "liberal" administration) will be personally held responsible for everything that is likely to happen in the next 4 years.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21717029 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:57:32 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21716530 NetAdmin :
said by N3OGH See Profile :

Ya wanna bet?
Yeah, different puppet masters than the one's behind the Bush administration... ;)
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said by NetAdmin See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different.
His mantra of change is the real deal... He was being honest about the fact that the hands up the president's sock-pocket rear end have changed. :)
Ya wanna bet?

Signed, Hillary C. and the cabinet of her husband's second term. ;)

At this point, the only thing that will "change" is the crew of jerks in DC sticking it to us.....
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different.
His mantra of change is the real deal... He was being honest about the fact that the hands up the president's sock-pocket rear end have changed. :)
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I think all of these bailouts will do nothing but cause the government to print money and burn us all with trillion dollar debt loads and no incentives for investment or recovery.

I.E. What good does giving a mega corp money if
a) Companies have no reason to 'invest' in the US - labor, laws and governments are a little more business friendly in places like India, China, Brazil.
b) This country is 'broke' - you can give money to companies, however, nobody has money or desire to purchase ANY products. Eg. Giving money to car companies won't help much as people are still not buying.

Its something that won't be fixed overnight.
Infrastructure investment at least has _some_ benefit for most of us.
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said by Chiyo See Profile :

Holy cow I think for once I agree with TK Junk Mail.
The only reason he's saying that is because *his* sheriff isn't running the town.

You're not necessarily agreeing with him.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715655 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:48:38 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715432 DrModem :
said by Matt See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system.
Which is precisely why I respect your opinion, but would never vote for you for public office or ask you to sit on my board of directors. This country needs new life ... I'm tired of you stodgy, backroom good 'ol white boys ruining everything. :)
Lol TK, don't feed the kool-aid squad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715432 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:01:05 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715383 anon : If you saw what I saw and spoke out in 2001 as I did you too would find out that they don't like some one pointing out that the corperation was being raided by contract companies. Notification was sent certified letter in 2001 to Joe N.

Reward = black listed from hire.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715383 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:52:05 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715308 Matt :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system.
Which is precisely why I respect your opinion, but would never vote for you for public office or ask you to sit on my board of directors. This country needs new life ... I'm tired of you stodgy, backroom good 'ol white boys ruining everything. :)
LOL. Well now, be of good cheer. You now will get to see minorities and women "ruining everything". ;) :D

"The more things change, the more they stay the same"
Ha ha, I grew in up Greensboro, NC, the home of the Woolworth lunch-counter sit-ins ... and on top of that most of my life was raised by a single Mom. I went to a High School that was 90% Black, 5% "Other" (We were the only ESL school) and 5% White. All during the Rodney King Trial and verdict. So I'm well versed in what you speak of. :)

I will guarantee you one thing, I have drunk the Obama Kool-Aid, but I also know what a sugar crash is like. I'm not expecting him to fix everything that ails us in 4 years flat, but if we're not well on our way with plans clearly laid out ... I likely won't vote for him again.

Unless of course my choice is another Republican like the last few I've had the pleasure of choosing between.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715308 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:36:04 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715229 TKJunkMail :
said by Matt See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system.
Which is precisely why I respect your opinion, but would never vote for you for public office or ask you to sit on my board of directors. This country needs new life ... I'm tired of you stodgy, backroom good 'ol white boys ruining everything. :)
LOL. Well now, be of good cheer. You now will get to see minorities and women "ruining everything". ;) :D

"The more things change, the more they stay the same"
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system.
Which is precisely why I respect your opinion, but would never vote for you for public office or ask you to sit on my board of directors. This country needs new life ... I'm tired of you stodgy, backroom good 'ol white boys ruining everything. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715210 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:15:50 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715194 Matt :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end.
It must suck to live in such a pessimistic world.
I see it as being realistic. And then use that info to take advantage of the system as it is.
Realistically, you're a pessimist? So the glass is always half empty, but at least that really is water in it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715194 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:11:30 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715183 TKJunkMail :
said by Matt See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end.
It must suck to live in such a pessimistic world.
I see it as being realistic. And then use that info to take advantage of the system as it is. If I learned anything during 18+ years of schooling and 30+ years of business it is how to game the system.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end.
It must suck to live in such a pessimistic world. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715170 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:06:21 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715168 nasadude :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

....So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end.
millions? I think you significantly overestimate the "flow thru". I believe most, if not all, of any money thrown at the ILECs will be as effective as the $350 billion thrown at the banking industry.

In other words, a complete waste.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715168 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:06:00 EDT Re: Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715126 Chiyo :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end.
Holy cow I think for once I agree with TK Junk Mail. These are the same companies who refused to expand their network out to the rural areas and blocked the latest in Internet connectivity technology to befit themselves where if they in turn spent the money on improving their infrastructure I think they'd be in a better position.

I see this as just another cash grab hell maybe I become an ISP and than go to Washington and plead my case if its anyway the 856Billion bailout for Wall Street went than it should be quite easy. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715126 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:56:05 EDT Don't expect anything to really change http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21715107 TKJunkMail : There is just a new corrupt sheriff running the town and the major players who bought his campaign victory will expect to be paid back in favors - as it has been for over 200 years. Politicians are all for sale and the new one with his mantra of "change" is no different. So Washington will dump billions in to the pipeline, but only millions will come out the other end.
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