GoBG
join:2004-02-27
2 edits | reply to GoBG
Re: High Performance 3300 series
Crap! My ISP has turn on interleave again......at a Depth of 352 on the downstream, with a 10ms delay
My first trace-route hop is over 50ms 
The line is set where the DSL modem will sync at the highest possible speed.. which will in-turn enable interleave because of the line noise. And then the Dslam will lower the speeds to my 3meg plan.
It took me a year to get on fastpath after trying to explain what is was to my small ISP... and now its gone in a blink of and eye. |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
4 edits | reply to GoBG
All three Netopia modems I tried back to back.
said by GoBG  :Here's my stats on the 2246N-VGx with the same 774r1 firmware. 3000/800 DSL line.
Downstream Upstream
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SNR Margin: 30.00 11.80 dB
Line Attenuation: 29.80 16.70 dB
Output Power: 19.14 12.29 dBm
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Estimated loop length: 7446 feet (bridge tap)
said by GoBG :Here's my stats from my newly acquired 3347-02-1006L
Downstream Upstream
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SNR Margin: 28.50 14.40 dB
Line Attenuation: 33.00 16.00 dB
Output Power: 19.60 12.29 dB
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Estimated loop length: 7446 feet (bridge tap)
Here the stats on the 3347nwg-006
I see the 3347nwg-006 added a few feet to my loop length.
Since its the same hardware..(minus the bellsouth firmware) the stats are pretty much the same.
What we learn?
The 3300 series with the integrated broadcom chip has better upstream s/n margins than the 2200 series |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27 | reply to GoBG
After having these 3347 modems I can say for a fact they have a higher sustainable speed and better noise margins than the 2200 series. |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
2 edits | reply to teekblang
said by teekblang :
Was it the abercrombie fitch guy? Yes.
quote:
How much did you pay for one. Including S/H?
$60 Including S/H, I probably could have gotten it cheaper. This was my offer to him. I needed to sweeten the pot for him to bite. The 5(bulk) for $200 adds up to $40 each.
Good luck  |
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teekblang
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Was it the abercrombie fitch guy? How much did you pay for one. Including S/H?
I am looking for the covad 3347MWG-T (vgx)(California)
or the 3346N-002(i think all are generic netopia interface) |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
1 edit | reply to GoBG
I sold the 3347nwg-006 prematurely, thinking the 3347nwg-VGx was an original, not a Covad. But I manage to buy another 3347nwg-006 on Ebay for $9 today  Ebay is amazing!
After all this i'm making a profit! |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
1 edit | reply to GoBG
I sold the other 2 3347 modems. I still want a 3347nwg with Netopia interface. The Covad is fine but I cant tweak or look at my online stats on it. So my adventure continues. |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
1 edit | reply to GoBG
I got the 3347NWG-VGx today. It turn out to be a Covad modal.. blah!!
But I manage to update it with nta7.7.4r1 firmware. Everything works. It shows fastpath But I hate covad interface. No advance options. |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
2 edits | reply to GoBG
Update!
I puchased the 3347NWG-VGx from a guy that was selling them in bulk. Its was hard but he finally let one go! |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
1 edit | reply to GoBG
I also won the 3347w-006 from a auction I bid on the other day.. figuring I would be out bid.
After learning it's not VGx base..and can't be updated do to its out of date wireless spec. I didn't want it. but you know how these auction things goes... you live by your rep.
I'm going to have a house full of modems next week. |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
1 edit | reply to GoBG
Just bought the 3347nwg-006 off Ebay for $28 |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
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I notice the 3347wg firmware starts with nl750
This worries me... It may not accept nta firmwares like the 3347-02-1006L. It had a firmware that begin with nwta and wouldn't accept anything else.
It seems I'd be better off just getting a 3347nwg-006... I know "but its bellsouth" The 3347nwg-006 is the only one I know for a fact that will accept nta firmwares and the bellsouth GUI can be disabled by turning off auto config via telnet. |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
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I think I will bite the bullet and buy another 3347 modem..I won the 3347-02-1006L on ebay for $5 so i'm not upset, only disappointed I cant get rid of the bellsouth firmware.
I see a used 3347WG for $40. I don't believe 3347WG's has any ISP interfaces. |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
2 edits | reply to dgilbert
The 3347 I have is fine so far... but I hate seeing the word "interleave" on my stats, even though I don't believe i'm on it do to my first hop stats.
You won't believe what I went through to get fastpath from my small telco. It took over a year and a call to the ceo.
The 3347 does have better upstream SNR numbers than my old 2246. Decision Decisions Decisions
If only I could flash the 3347 with a Vgx firmware.. I think that would solve it. The bellsouth firmware what's causing this I bet. |
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dgilbert
Good Bye My Friend
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join:2002-06-15
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i had to put my 3547 back online. for some reason teh 3347 keeps locking up every night and requires a HARD restart to correct. i ain't got time to play with it right now, so i am just using the 3547 until i get time to see what the problem is. the 3547 is getting slightly slower thruput due to teh reduced SNR, but i can deal with it for now.
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Lack of Preparation on YOUR Part does NOT Constitute an Emergency on Mine! |
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
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Here's my stats from my newly acquired 3347-02-1006L
Downstream Upstream
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SNR Margin: 28.50 14.40 dB
Line Attenuation: 33.00 16.00 dB
Output Power: 19.60 12.29 dB
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Estimated loop length: 7446 feet (bridge tap)
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
4 edits | reply to tranle
Here's my stats on the 2246N-VGx with the same 774r1 firmware.
3000/800 DSL line.
Downstream Upstream
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SNR Margin: 30.00 11.80 dB
Line Attenuation: 29.80 16.70 dB
Output Power: 19.14 12.29 dBm
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Estimated loop length: 7446 feet (bridge tap)
Post your stats davidg.
One thing I notice is the netgear broadcom modem I tested had upstream SNR margin at 16db. This tells me the broadcom chipset handles line noise better.
But the 3347 does have broadcom switch integrated with Texas Instruments chipset..»wiki.openwrt.org/Hardware/Netopia
Perhaps this is the reason for the higher upstream you posted, tranle. I don't believe the 2246N-VGx has the integrated broadcom switch. |
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tranle
join:2001-06-10
Mountain View, CA
 ·DSL EXTREME
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said by GoBG :nta774r1.bin is the 2246N-VGx current firmware as well. What's your SNR Margin are like? This is what I have on my 6000/768 dsl line. That firmware also tell how far it think I am from the co.
Downstream Upstream
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SNR Margin: 11.50 13.00 dB
Line Attenuation: 28.00 20.00 dB
Output Power: 13.92 11.90 dBm
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Estimated loop length: 6504 feet (bridge tap)
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GoBG
join:2004-02-27
2 edits | reply to tranle
said by tranle :I have been using the nta774r1.bin in my 3347NWGvx since around 02/08/2008. It does somehow check that it is compatible with your hardware, because I did try a firmware that was not an ntaXXX.bin and it would not take it. I had reported some bug on nta760r4.bin but netopia never bother putting out a new version on their website. nta774r1.bin is the 2246N-VGx current firmware as well.
What's your SNR Margin are like? |
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tranle
join:2001-06-10
Mountain View, CA
·DSL EXTREME
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said by GoBG :Is that safe? To swap different series firmware like that? Would it work on the 2246N-VGx? So the firmware in the 2247NWG is more up to date than 3347NWG? I have been using the nta774r1.bin in my 3347NWGvx since around 02/08/2008. It does somehow check that it is compatible with your hardware, because I did try a firmware that was not an ntaXXX.bin and it would not take it.
I had reported some bug on nta760r4.bin but netopia never bother putting out a new version on their website. |
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