SteveLV702
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join:2004-04-22
Henderson, NV | reply to fiberguy
Re: QuickPwn It!
how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service. |
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Ark
join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Theft of Service would be if you paid nothing, and used the service, such as tapping into your neighbors cable TV and not paying anybody.
Using a service you are already paying for, on a device you already own, and routing it to another device using software you install on the device you own may be against their silly Terms of Service, but that's about as silly as Comcast trying to tell people that using a home router is against their TOS and you can only hook 1 computer to your cable modem. Yes, Comcast HAS tried that in my area, and some people paid an extra $10/month per computer for the privilege of using a router they own to have two computers they own both online, while others just used a router anyway, breaking the ToS.
Personally, ToS that try to limit what software you install on devices you own, along with ToS that try to limit things like what specific websites you can visit, are probably entirely unenforceable. You pay for 5GB/month on the device, use it on the device or pass it through the device however you see fit. |
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fiberguy
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said by SteveLV702  :how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service. Well, having been someone that spent many years in company security for the cable business, and taking people that acted on theft of service, I think I'm pretty qualified to know what is and isn't theft of service.
To TAKE a service in which you didn't pay for, is theft of service. (Tapping into a feeder, or decoding a security item to gain access to services) This is taking a service that you didn't pay for. This is the type of people that we took to court and it was up to the district attorney to decide if criminal charges would be filed.
To use a service in against the requested desires of the provider, ie: hooking up a second device, route the data outside the TOS, or "tether service" that you already are allowed to use, is simply a violation of the TOS agreement and handled by a company initiated penalty. The big bad police aren't comin' to get you. This type of abuse was handled by disconnection, usually.
You have every right to believe what you'd like, but I'll go with what is actually correct. |
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joako
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said by SteveLV702 :how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service. How is this theft of service? There is no way you an steal something that doesn't exist.
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ptrowski
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said by SteveLV702 :how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service. Please tell me what service I am using but not paying for. I paid for 5 GB of data per month.
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fiberliar
| I agree. You pay for a wireless internet connection with a 5GB "limit." Who are they to say how, when, or where you use it? Theft of service my ass. |
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