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1 edit | Windows 7 - BSOD
See Update below Monday 1/12 9AM
I just upgraded to Windows 7 from Vista.
During the install, it told me to uninstall my NVIDIA Drivers /App. I canceled the install as it said to and went to Control Panel and made sure everything from NVIDIA had been uninstalled. Restarted.
I then started the Windows 7 installer again and it gave me the same warning. I checked again and there was no NVIDIA app installed. So I then completed the upgrade. '
I've now booted into Windows 7 two times and it says Preparing your desktop for about a minute...goes to the desktop which is wrong resolution, and gives me BSOD. I have also tried booting into Safe Mode, but it gives me BSOD and restarts again.
Is there a way to get it to a place where I can get to Device Manager and uninstall the Display Adapter? -- YOU can help reduce poverty, sustainably. »www.kiva.org/lender/kenandart
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 dave Premium,MVM join:2000-05-04 not in ohio | I haven't seen Windows 7, but every version of Windows NT since 1993 has had the ability to boot using the display in VGA mode, specifically for dealing with display driver problems.
Hit F8 during boot, probably. |
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  koam Pink Pecker Premium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle clubs: | Thanks. I was able to boot to Command Prompt if that is of any help. I will try F8 now. It's a Dell. |
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| reply to koam You should have just swapped out the hard drive with a spare / blank one and then did a fresh / clean install of Win7 Beta.....this way you don't hose up your good OS.
While reading a lot of these Win7 Beta posts in this forum, i just can't understand why anyone would upgrade from a Vista or an XP hard drive to something thats only a Beta OS and will expire in August. |
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| said by Loco :You should have just swapped out the hard drive with a spare / blank one and then did a fresh / clean install of Win7 Beta.....this way you don't hose up your good OS. While reading a lot of these Win7 Beta posts in this forum, i just can't understand why anyone would upgrade from a Vista or an XP hard drive to something thats only a Beta OS and will expire in August. I'll second your statement. I installed a clean Windows 7 beta on a spare hard drive and haven't been having any problems with it.
I'm starting to like Windows 7, and didn't expect to. I'm thinking it will be the upgrade from Windows XP for my family. -- "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use." |
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| reply to koam Back on topic, the BSOD stop line cites SASKUTIL.SYS.
The F8 does go to low-res mode, but it still crashes after a short while.
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  auggy Premium,Mod join:2001-12-24 Brockville, ON | SASKUTIL.SYS, I believe, is a SuperAntispyware driver.
Can you restart the computer in Safe Mode and uninstall SuperAntispyware? |
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  koam Pink Pecker Premium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle clubs: 2 edits | Thanks. I don't know if I can get into a real Safe Mode, but I'll try. I can get to Safe Mode with command prompt. |
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| reply to auggy It did go into Safe Mode this time. I went to Control Panel, Programs, and tried to uninstall Super Antispyware... The error it gives me upon uninstall says:
Windows Installer The Windows Installer Service could not be accessed. Theis can occur if the Windows Installer is not correctly installed. Contact your support personnel for assistance. -- YOU can help reduce poverty, sustainably. »www.kiva.org/lender/kenandart
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| I belive the SASKUTIL.SYS might be loaded by the SuperAntispyware service. Possibly try disabling the service, and then booting normally to uninstall. Right-click My Computer > Manage. Goto Services > Open the SuperAntispyware service, and set Start-up type to Disabled. This is on XP, I'm sure Vista/Win7 is similar. |
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3 edits | reply to koam While in Safe Mode, I disabled all NVIDIA and SuperAntispyware Startup Items in System Configuration.
I did not yet uninstall the Display Adapter in Device Manager.
After the above, I was able to get into regular mode and I then was able to uninstall SuperAntispyware.
Upon further review, I rebooted and SAS is still there. I tried to uninstall it again and it gave me BSOD for SASKUTIL.SYS again....more than once. I then deleted the folder for SAS and then uninstalled, and it seemed to work.
However after that, I got another BSOD, with the stop line: NV4_DISP.DLL. Lots on that DLL and BSOD, including this: »byronmiller.typepad.com/byronmil···ws_.html
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  koam Pink Pecker Premium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle clubs: | reply to auggy SAS looks like it's gone now.
The Display drivers seem to still be crashing. In Device Manager, it won't let me uninstall the Display Adapter...it issues the standard warning but then does nothing when I confirm to uninstall. |
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| said by grreyeyezz :I sure hope you imaged your drive before upgrading to Windows(beta)7. Yep, thats what i would have done if i was installing Win7 Beta onto a desktop pc.
Ghost 8 works great for creating an image file (.GHO) of the whole hard drive..:+) |
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| reply to Loco said by Loco :You should have just swapped out the hard drive with a spare / blank one and then did a fresh / clean install of Win7 Beta.....this way you don't hose up your good OS. While reading a lot of these Win7 Beta posts in this forum, i just can't understand why anyone would upgrade from a Vista or an XP hard drive to something thats only a Beta OS and will expire in August. 1st of all, I tryed a clean install and it wouldn't recognize unallocated space. 2 different disks...I just loaded it over xp.
2nd...People have had it with Vista. Yes, 7 has that Vista feel, except it's not as intrusive and it's faster than s***. My process list is at 33 and idling at about 450mb, less than 1/2 of the resources Vista uses. -- "When I was in junior high school, the teachers voted me the student most likely to end up in the electric chair."---Sylvestor Stallone |
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  yuutomo The Wonder Kitter Premium join:2001-08-27 Missoula, MT | reply to koam what are the EXACT specs for this system, if it's a Dell and has not been chaged from stock hardware, model and service tag will suffice. |
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2 edits | reply to koam UPDATE Monday 1/12 9AM
I have installed Windows 7 twice on this computer. Once is an upgrade from Vista and the other is clean on a new partition.
In trying to get the upgrade to work better, it appears that there are some carryover issues with whatever drives the display and NVIDIA card.
On the Clean install, it first went to a generic display driver and then Windows 7 automatically downloaded or installed a driver called "NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT (Prerelease - WDDM1.1)". And this appears to work. In the Windows 7 Control Panel there is an NVIDIA Control Panel - which Windows 7 got automatically.
On the Upgrade install, I am unable to Uninstall the Display Adapter in Device Manager, but I have "disabled" it. I have also disabled all Startup items from NVIDIA on System Configuration. In the past, downloading the NVIDIA drivers, etc. from DELL has turned out badly, with system instability and crashes.
It'd be nice to be able to just get rid of any old NVIDIA and related drivers on the Upgrade install and have Windows 7 find an appropriate driver on its own like it did on the clean install.
the PC specs are • Dell Vostro 1700 • Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T5870@ 2.00GHz • 4.0 GB RAM • NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT • 160 GB 7200 RPM HD
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| reply to koam What's interesting to me is that the nVidia driver would be crashing in Windows 7 but worked ok in Vista. According to Microsoft, the driver model didn't change between Windows 7 and Vista, so you wouldn't expect a problem. -- "Don't steal. The government hates competition." |
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  koam Pink Pecker Premium join:2000-08-16 East Puddle clubs: | I had problems with the NVIDIA drivers in Vista of late. I had experienced some freezing and people suggested that I go get new NVIDIA drivers, which only seemed to make it worse. So all was not good with the NVIDIA in Vista either. |
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