Re: QuickPwn It! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21724903 en Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:24:56 EDT Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:24:56 EDT Re: QuickPwn It! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21727190 anon : I agree. You pay for a wireless internet connection with a 5GB "limit." Who are they to say how, when, or where you use it? Theft of service my ass.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21727190 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:21:38 EDT Re: QuickPwn It! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21726248 ptrowski :
said by SteveLV702 See Profile :

how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service.
Please tell me what service I am using but not paying for. I paid for 5 GB of data per month.
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said by SteveLV702 See Profile :

how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service.
How is this theft of service? There is no way you an steal something that doesn't exist.
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said by SteveLV702 See Profile :

how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service.
Well, having been someone that spent many years in company security for the cable business, and taking people that acted on theft of service, I think I'm pretty qualified to know what is and isn't theft of service.

To TAKE a service in which you didn't pay for, is theft of service. (Tapping into a feeder, or decoding a security item to gain access to services) This is taking a service that you didn't pay for. This is the type of people that we took to court and it was up to the district attorney to decide if criminal charges would be filed.

To use a service in against the requested desires of the provider, ie: hooking up a second device, route the data outside the TOS, or "tether service" that you already are allowed to use, is simply a violation of the TOS agreement and handled by a company initiated penalty. The big bad police aren't comin' to get you. This type of abuse was handled by disconnection, usually.

You have every right to believe what you'd like, but I'll go with what is actually correct.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21725295 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:04:12 EDT Re: QuickPwn It! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21724903 Ark : Theft of Service would be if you paid nothing, and used the service, such as tapping into your neighbors cable TV and not paying anybody.

Using a service you are already paying for, on a device you already own, and routing it to another device using software you install on the device you own may be against their silly Terms of Service, but that's about as silly as Comcast trying to tell people that using a home router is against their TOS and you can only hook 1 computer to your cable modem. Yes, Comcast HAS tried that in my area, and some people paid an extra $10/month per computer for the privilege of using a router they own to have two computers they own both online, while others just used a router anyway, breaking the ToS.

Personally, ToS that try to limit what software you install on devices you own, along with ToS that try to limit things like what specific websites you can visit, are probably entirely unenforceable. You pay for 5GB/month on the device, use it on the device or pass it through the device however you see fit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21724903 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:01:46 EDT Re: QuickPwn It! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21722737 SteveLV702 : how is it illegal lets see your using a service and not paying for it. Its called (Theft of Services) but yes its also against their Terms of Service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21722737 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:11:21 EDT Re: QuickPwn It! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21722728 fiberguy :
said by SteveLV702 See Profile :

let see why pay for it cause your doing it illegally so once you do get caught (and you will someday) you will probably get booted off their network if not arrested for Theft of Services....
Really? Illegal? Care to point any of us to the "law" that says it's "illegal"...?

.. try a better route. It's against the TOS. I swear.. we're not a fascist society, yet. (Yes, they influence the laws, but so do the people) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21722728 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:08:48 EDT Re: QuickPwn It! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21722084 digiblur : No doubt... their plans are already expensive enough.

I've been enjoying broadband tethering on my $30 SERO plan for more than a year.
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