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battleop

join:2005-09-28
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Where are the privacy whackos?

So why are they not freaking out over this? This is really not that much different than web adds that are served to you after looking at your surfing habits.

And yes I used the term whacko. It's for the ones that somehow think that a 3rd party can find every intimate detail about you because they they know that 10.234.3.4 likes to search for hard drives and now they send Segate adds to them instead of Smiling Bob adds.

IF I have to look at adds somewhere I would at least prefer they be for something that I might be interested in buying. Then again if you use ad block software it's a moot point.


TwoCpus4me

join:2003-10-16

Its my computer, not theirs. I pay for a data circuit. I do not pay to have every move I make sent to a high-powered data warehouse so that some geek can decide what I like, when I like it, how often I like it, and what other things I might like.

And in our twisted legal system, how that information may someday be used against me.

Its basically unreasonable search and siezure of intellectual information. The paradigm of "We've been doing it for years..." and the younger generation just accepting it as status quo has to be changed.

Thank you microsoft for including the privacy option in the Internet Explorer 8 browser that blocks some of this information from being transmitted. Its a start.



funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5

reply to battleop
Ads, not Adds. (Although there is something Freudian about 'Adds'.)

said by battleop:

So why are they not freaking out over this? This is really not that much different than web adds that are served to you after looking at your surfing habits.
Seems that they think it's different (and they're right).

said by battleop:

And yes I used the term whacko. It's for the ones that somehow think that a 3rd party can find every intimate detail about you because they they know that 10.234.3.4 likes to search for hard drives and now they send Segate adds to them instead of Smiling Bob adds.
Yeah, and that's why the the 'wackos' are (NOT) out there picketing Google every day (NOT!) for storing search information.

Again, you misunderstand and mis-frame the problem with ISPs abusing their trusted position as access providers.
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Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL
...just some more roadkill on the Information Superhighway...


ninjatutle
Premium

join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA

reply to battleop
I would pay someone to sit outside of these Comcast exec's office and houses and note every detail of their coming and goings. Everything from what time they take out the trash, what type of grocery bags they have in hand, what time the last light goes out at night, etc.

See how they like being tracked. I would then mail or do door to door advertisments with things that might interest them seeing as how I have insight on them now..



kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

reply to battleop

said by battleop:

So why are they not freaking out over this? This is really not that much different than web adds that are served to you after looking at your surfing habits.

And yes I used the term whacko. It's for the ones that somehow think that a 3rd party can find every intimate detail about you because they they know that 10.234.3.4 likes to search for hard drives and now they send Segate adds to them instead of Smiling Bob adds.

IF I have to look at adds somewhere I would at least prefer they be for something that I might be interested in buying. Then again if you use ad block software it's a moot point.
Hey kid,

feel free to ask when you are obviously unable to grasp it on your own - using 'whacko" then admitting your utter lack of clue is just downright hilarous (did I say pathetic?)
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[BQUOTE=[user=bicker]]Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them.
[/BQUOTE]


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

reply to ninjatutle

said by ninjatutle:

I would pay someone to sit outside of these Comcast exec's office and houses and note every detail of their coming and goings. Everything from what time they take out the trash, what type of grocery bags they have in hand, what time the last light goes out at night, etc.
Try that and they will call the local police (or the private security firm who patrols their local area) to harass you.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to TwoCpus4me
They are not accessing anything on your computer. There is also no search and seizure when they look at surfer's surfing habits. They are not searching your computer and they are not seizing anything that is on your hard drive.

"Thank you microsoft for including the privacy option in the Internet Explorer 8 browser that blocks some of this information from being transmitted"

How is that going to stop anything. Are they going to setup an encrypted tunnel for you to surf through? Even if they do what's going to keep Microsoft any more clean than your ISP? They make money off of advertising too.



battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to ninjatutle
How about a relevant comparison to deep packet inspection.



ninjatutle
Premium

join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA

I just want to know where they do their grocery shopping and when they come and go. Whats the harm in that?


Necronomikro

join:2005-09-01

reply to battleop

said by battleop:

How about a relevant comparison to deep packet inspection.
Ok. So he goes in and tracks everything inside as well.


kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

reply to battleop

said by battleop:

They are not accessing anything on your computer. There is also no search and seizure when they look at surfer's surfing habits. They are not searching your computer and they are not seizing anything that is on your hard drive.

"Thank you microsoft for including the privacy option in the Internet Explorer 8 browser that blocks some of this information from being transmitted"

How is that going to stop anything. Are they going to setup an encrypted tunnel for you to surf through? Even if they do what's going to keep Microsoft any more clean than your ISP? They make money off of advertising too.
Except they TELL you and YOU CAN OPT OUT, they won't do anything without your consent.
And no, they don't make money on YOUR habits.
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[BQUOTE=[user=bicker]]Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them.
[/BQUOTE]


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

"And no, they don't make money on YOUR habits."

If they didn't make money on it some where they would not do it.



funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5

said by battleop:

"And no, [Microsoft] don't make money on YOUR [IE8] habits."

If they didn't make money on it some where they would not do it.
True, but they still don't make any money on the surfing habits.

Microsoft is in a feature-for-feature fight with Mozilla on a browser that it gives away. If it successfully makes people want Internet Explorer, it can ask more money for the Windows O/S.
--
Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL
...just some more roadkill on the Information Superhighway...


kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

reply to battleop

said by battleop:

"And no, they don't make money on YOUR habits."

If they didn't make money on it some where they would not do it.
In other words you have no clue whatsoever, you just post things pulled out of your bottom parts, I see.
--
[BQUOTE=[user=bicker]]Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them.
[/BQUOTE]

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