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Re: money money money money..... MONEY! said by fAcEtIOUs:said by TCub:If they have the cash to burn on crap like this.... They must charge their customers an arm and a leg. I have Cox and we have our TV and Internet for about $100 I think. Not too bad for digital cable and WWW. A 500 terabyte server farm costs next to nothing for even a medium size business. For Comcast the cost is inconsequential and would be easily dwarfed by the extra revenue they would get from the higher prices targeted ads would garner. Depends on what type of storage. I've worked on everything from small arrays to large EMC Symmetrix SANs. We paid over $100,000 for a 15TB SAN array the other day. This was the low end. The high end gets into the millions of dollars.
If you're using cheap drives in a cheap array it can be cheap. But if you're using enterprise class storage it can get pricey. |
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 kamm
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Brooklyn, NY | said by fifty nine:said by fAcEtIOUs:said by TCub:If they have the cash to burn on crap like this.... They must charge their customers an arm and a leg. I have Cox and we have our TV and Internet for about $100 I think. Not too bad for digital cable and WWW. A 500 terabyte server farm costs next to nothing for even a medium size business. For Comcast the cost is inconsequential and would be easily dwarfed by the extra revenue they would get from the higher prices targeted ads would garner. Depends on what type of storage. I've worked on everything from small arrays to large EMC Symmetrix SANs. We paid over $100,000 for a 15TB SAN array the other day. This was the low end. The high end gets into the millions of dollars. If you're using cheap drives in a cheap array it can be cheap. But if you're using enterprise class storage it can get pricey. Exactly and beyond the storage size and bandwidth your shared fs licenses ($3-4k per seat) can run into tens of thousands of dollars, depending on your server/access configuration, all this on top of your FC or Infiniband hw costs.
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| said by kamm:Exactly and beyond the storage size and bandwidth your shared fs licenses ($3-4k per seat) can run into tens of thousands of dollars, depending on your server/access configuration, all this on top of your FC or Infiniband hw costs. What kind of array did you buy for 200k btw?
We bought a 3Par S400. Nice price, but one of the system controllers had RAM that failed twice. No problems since though. |
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kamm
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Brooklyn, NY | Mine is from here: »www.datadirectnet.com/
I put two Storage Server 2k3 R2 w/ multi-Gb eth on front of it via 4 gig FC, to do FC->LAN and FS/metadata and the rest of the host ports connected to a 16-port 4 gig switch.
What FS are you guys using?
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| said by kamm:What FS are you guys using? Filesystems?
For the Linux boxes it's LVM with ReiserFS. For Solaris we're using vxvm/vxfs. |
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Brooklyn, NY | said by fifty nine:said by kamm:What FS are you guys using? Filesystems? For the Linux boxes it's LVM with ReiserFS. For Solaris we're using vxvm/vxfs. Ahh so you're not running shared FS. That's the nice and easy way of living. 
BTW Reiser got 15 to life last year, you know that, right?
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| said by kamm:said by fifty nine:said by kamm:What FS are you guys using? Filesystems? For the Linux boxes it's LVM with ReiserFS. For Solaris we're using vxvm/vxfs. Ahh so you're not running shared FS. That's the nice and easy way of living. BTW Reiser got 15 to life last year, you know that, right? Yeah I know. 
I used to work at a much larger DC where we had Veritas Cluster filesystem, RAC and the like. They had a couple hundred TB of storage. This was a financial company.
Now I'm at a different place that deals primarily in media. It's quite a different environment. A lot of our storage is for video content, including HD streaming and on-demand for cable companies.
Completely different needs. |
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Brooklyn, NY | said by fifty nine:Yeah I know. I used to work at a much larger DC where we had Veritas Cluster filesystem, RAC and the like. They had a couple hundred TB of storage. This was a financial company. Now I'm at a different place that deals primarily in media. It's quite a different environment. A lot of our storage is for video content, including HD streaming and on-demand for cable companies. Completely different needs. Not necessarily: we deal with high-res media as well, scientific stuff but the main SAN users are usually the 3d/fx guys.
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