james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica | Change?
"former Harvard classmate of Obama"
That's not change, that's more of the same. |
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA | Did Bush appoint Harvard grads to run the FCC. I must have mist that. |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
2 edits | said by rdmiller  :Did Bush appoint Harvard grads to run the FCC. I must have mist that. Bush appointed his friends to important positions.
I like Obama but I'm 100% against cronyism, and this is a perfect example of that.
edit: I hope I'm wrong. |
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA | You want him to appoint people he doesn't know? Or people from second rate schools? What exactly is a crony? |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| said by rdmiller :You want him to appoint people he doesn't know? Yes, I want him to appoint people that he doesn't personally know (hiring people he knows professionally is ok and unavoidable in that setting), or at the very least people who he hasn't been best friends with for 20 years.
If this guy is the only appointment like this that Obama makes, then I'll chalk it up to co-incidence that one of Obamas friends just happens to be the best choice for such an important position. |
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JPL
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West Chester, PA
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said by rdmiller :You want him to appoint people he doesn't know? Or people from second rate schools? What exactly is a crony? So, coming from Harvard automatically makes him a good fit for the FCC chair? Really? Because I know alot of very smart people who would suck at a job like that. Coming from an Ivy League school doesn't automatically make those people qualified for that job.
As for appointing someone that you know vs. someone you don't - I really don't care if the person is a friend of the president or not. What I care is: are they qualified for the position? That should be the determining factor - if they personally know the president, fine, but that shouldn't be a substitute for qualifications - I mean, come on Leon Panetta for CIA head. If you want a definition of 'cronyism' the Panetta appointment pretty much sums it up.
This proposed FCC chair's lack of background concerns me. We're heading into a time of real transition in this arena, and the head of the FCC is going to be shaping policy in some very consequential ways.
BTW, the fact that he's a venture capitalist is great, but again is NO substitution for qualifications for this job. I know venture capitalists - some that invest heavily in high tech companies, and they don't know jack about technology. They know how to read balance sheets, and they get a sense for what type of product will sell - they could care less about HOW said product works. |
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tdouglas22
join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN | reply to james
Yes but Bush was an idiot and so are his friends. Obama on the other hand, has proven to be a very smart guy. I'm sure he is making smart choices and appointing smart people into these positions. |
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JPL
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| said by tdouglas22 :Yes but Bush was an idiot and so are his friends. Obama on the other hand, has proven to be a very smart guy. I'm sure he is making smart choices and appointing smart people into these positions. I love these types of ad hominem attacks. Proven...how, exactly? How has Obama 'proven' his intelligence? I hear that Bush is a brain dead idiot - this from the same people who lauded Gore's intelligence (remember the headlines: Is Gore Too Smart to be President? - which really is a slam on all us 'what are you people stupid, or something? Don't you recognize genius when you see it?!') Never mind the fact that Bush actually has a higher IQ than Gore, and he has an MBA, while Gore dropped out of divinity school. Not saying that divinity school is a cake walk or anything, but come on, dropping out of a school like that because you're not doing well doesn't exactly speak highly of your supposed intelligence. |
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tdouglas22
join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN
| He beat the good ole boy system and did not have to resort to the republican attack methods. He used their own arrogance against them and won. If you don't see how smart he really is, then I can't make you see it either.
For the record, an IQ score is only showing a person's potential. It's still up to that person to use that potential. |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
1 edit | said by tdouglas22 :He beat the good ole boy system This appointment does suggest that he never did beat the "good ole boy" system, and is in fact just another part of it.
said by tdouglas22 :Never mind the fact that Bush actually has a higher IQ than Gore I read that Bush was 120ish and Gore was 135ish, Kerry was below Bush though. But as far as Bush goes, anyone who thinks God is telling them to do things is a maniac who shouldn't be running baseball teams or oil companies let alone a country.
Bush must be really good at math for his IQ score to be so high. I say this because his logical reasoning, general knowledge and problem solving skills are severely lacking. |
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pnh102
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said by james :]Bush appointed his friends to important positions. I like Obama but I'm 100% against cronyism, and this is a perfect example of that. Cronyism is only unacceptable if a Republican does it.
However, I do not fault Obama for appointing his friends. He's avoiding the one big mistake that Bush made when he allowed many Clinton-era bureaucrats to stay on in key government positions. These people ultimately did everything they could to screw Bush over at every turn. Obama is wise to appoint friends and allies (or in the case of Hillary Clinton, former bitter enemies) to key positions that are under his control. He's less likely to get backstabbed at the wrong time that way.
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La Luna
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said by tdouglas22 :Yes but Bush was an idiot and so are his friends. Obama on the other hand, has proven to be a very smart guy. I'm sure he is making smart choices and appointing smart people into these positions. "Obama has proven to be a very smart guy"? LOL!!
I love the accolades Obama is receiving even before he's done squat (other than make some very scary propositions), he's not even the President yet. Apparently, it has been decided that he can do no wrong....oh, wait, never mind. I knew that already.
Panetta isn't such a "smart" choice, so who knows if this guy is or not.
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nozzer
join:2004-06-25
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1 edit | said by La Luna :(other than make some very scary propositions) Scary for a wingnut
said by La Luna :Panetta isn't such a "smart" choice, so who knows if this guy is or not. And others would say its quite an astute one, given that accountability to the American people is absolutely the first thing the CIA needs right now. |
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chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23
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1 edit | reply to james
Hollywoods takeover is almost complete..
( sound of darth vader helmet ...now)
Enjoy a two party system are yahs.
AHH aren't republics grand perfect examples of athenian democracy.
Seems to me that the trend at 1st was to put a few NON lobbyists in while everyone is looking and then start sliding the lobbyists and cronies in a bit later.
Oh well nothing ..changes.I guess one day when its too much to bear on all of us we'll go get some tanks and blow it all up and start again doing the same mistakes.
oh and here's a lil proof whats in store for this so called change....
»news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainmen···5654.stm
yup mister biden would approve this message |
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RadioDoc
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He has fairly decent experience at the FCC as an advisor and as legal counsel. It's not like he was picked off a Myspace page. You can hire technologists to form plans and programs but someone still need to execute and do it within the mechanics of a Federal bureaucracy. While the romantic notion of a reformer riding into town and doing it 'his way' while shunning the existing structure is very sexy and alluring, coming from Illinois I can tell you that approach didn't work for our current governor.
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JPL
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1 edit | reply to tdouglas22
said by tdouglas22 :He beat the good ole boy system and did not have to resort to the republican attack methods. He used their own arrogance against them and won. If you don't see how smart he really is, then I can't make you see it either. For the record, an IQ score is only showing a person's potential. It's still up to that person to use that potential. So, he's smart because he won? Well, gee, Bush won the TX governorship twice, and the presidency twice. And your response isn't a response at all - it's obfuscation. What 'good old boy' network are you talking about? You mean only good old boys get to vote? What kind of idiotic nonesense is that?
As for the 'attack machine', you're right - the democrats NEVER do any of that. Obama NEVER resorted to any negative campaigning during the election. I guess making statements like 'they're going to tell you that he doesn't look like the guys on the dollar bills...' wasn't a means for calling republicans racists, right? Nor was Ed Rendell's statement, during the primary, when he was pushing for Hillary, that there were too many white racists in PA for Obama to win the state. You're right - nothing but issues coming from the left. Please - if you have a response, then please give it. Wishful thinking on your part about Obama does NOT demonstrate, in any way, his intelligence. Neither does the ability to get elected - we've had alot of 'smart' politicians, some of whom made it to the presidency, who were unmitigated disasters. Carter, anyone? |
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JPL
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said by RadioDoc :He has fairly decent experience at the FCC as an advisor and as legal counsel. It's not like he was picked off a Myspace page. You can hire technologists to form plans and programs but someone still need to execute and do it within the mechanics of a Federal bureaucracy. While the romantic notion of a reformer riding into town and doing it 'his way' while shunning the existing structure is very sexy and alluring, coming from Illinois I can tell you that approach didn't work for our current governor. I never said he wasn't qualified. I said that coming from Harvard and being a friend of the incoming president do NOT automatically make him qualified. I was responding a post that seemed to be making that point. I frankly don't know if he's qualified because his public information appears to be pretty thin. |
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