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canesfan2001

join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL
reply to cdru
Re: ROI

Yes, you pegged it, my use of the words "if" and "could" were meant to convey that I was blessing 4G as my savior!
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cdru
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

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said by canesfan2001 See Profile :

I think fiber may likely become obsolete in 15 years or less because of wireless services. If 4G delivers on it's promise, it could be the end of landline services of any kind, TV, Phone, Internet, etc.
Lets get 3G service to cover a larger footprint before blessing 4G as the savior to all communication services.


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reply to canesfan2001
said by canesfan2001 See Profile :

...consumer applications, I'm not saying that business customers...
Many of us work where we live and live where we work. Our home is our office and our building is THIS NETWORK.

We need to get out of this 1950's "residential class" and "business class" paradigm.
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A_Tester_of_4G

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said by canesfan2001 See Profile :

I think fiber may likely become obsolete in 15 years or less because of wireless services. If 4G delivers on it's promise, it could be the end of landline services of any kind, TV, Phone, Internet, etc.
Oh, please!

In terms of real world speed, WiMAX is at BEST a competitor for current DSL! I'm working with the stuff right now, and it's not that impressive a technology. I'll take my home cable connection any day!

And the financials are worse. It has very high signal strength requirements to sustain a good connection, compared to conventional cellular, and, in its current incarnation, is situated at a very unfavorable frequency. Therefore, it suffers from very poor building penetration, not much coverage, which all translates to needing a LOT of expensive sites to make it work.

LTE will probably be deployed at a much more favorable 700 MHz, but still, it will require a very good signal to deliver good data rates, which will require a lot of sites.

Then there's the backhaul. You need to get that data stream from the wireless site to the core network somehow. Currently, this is a big concern in the industry.

Wireless may will do well in rural areas where it's just too expensive to run miles and miles of cable (in the same way voice wireless has brought phone service to many 3rd world countries), but it's NOT going to render obsolete any current technologies.

And satellite? A niche market at best. Capacity will always be too low, and latency too high, to make it a mass market data technology.


canesfan2001

join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL
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reply to Eat Me
That would likely be acceptable for consumer applications, I'm not saying that business customers would make the switch. But for home use, having interference once in a while would be a small price to pay for greatly reduced cost.
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funchords
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reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me See Profile :

said by canesfan2001 See Profile :

I think fiber may likely become obsolete in 15 years or less because of wireless services. If 4G delivers on it's promise, it could be the end of landline services of any kind, TV, Phone, Internet, etc.
That is what I was thinking, but wireless is still very susceptible to electromagnetic interference. Fiber is not.
I've seen 4G. It's a rival for last-generation DSL, and kicks-ass when mobile. It's great, but unfortunately it's not going to take us far into the future.
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Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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reply to canesfan2001
said by canesfan2001 See Profile :

I think fiber may likely become obsolete in 15 years or less because of wireless services. If 4G delivers on it's promise, it could be the end of landline services of any kind, TV, Phone, Internet, etc.
That is what I was thinking, but wireless is still very susceptible to electromagnetic interference. Fiber is not.


canesfan2001

join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL
reply to Eat Me
I think fiber may likely become obsolete in 15 years or less because of wireless services. If 4G delivers on it's promise, it could be the end of landline services of any kind, TV, Phone, Internet, etc.
--
OASAASLLS


Eat Me

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said by 53059959 See Profile :

haha fiber will be obsolete in 15 years?

uninstall
There were people who thought that 640k of RAm was good enough for everyone too.

It is quite possible that fiber may become obsolete, but not because of its bandwidth.
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