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tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
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Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

Well I've flashed it and now have DIR-615 C1 3.01 firmware running on a brand new Trendnet TEW-652BRP. The only reason why I had flash this firmware over the Trendnet basic firmware and I mean real basic that's why. I use this as a secondary Wireless N Access Point. These were cheap end of last month around $25 with free shipping. If they go on sale again I'll get another one for upstairs.



Specs: seem the same for C1 version of DIR-615 though.. That blows away the DIR-655, DIR-825, CPUs and RAM

AR9132 - CPU 400MHz +32MB of RAM non-gigabyte ports though, but I am not using it for gigabyte anyway.

N link rate 150mbps - in the router under DLINK it reads 130M 40% There seem to be a lot more features than in the DIR-655 A3 1.11 though mostly more security features for Vista.

Anyway I'll test this some more see how it goes. Until the DD-WRT folks can come with there firmware.
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

Interesting! I believe most folks and myself would understand your post better if you use plain English. No offense really. Perhaps you were rushing to get the message out.

1) Why did you flash the firmware of DI-615 into that of Trendnet model, i.e. what are the features lacking in TEW-652 BRP as compared to DLink models?

2) TEW-652BRP looks exactly like TEW-632BRP. Are they the same?

Would appreciate your reply.


tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

IT English Slang...

Firmware on the unit is basic. DIR-615 C1 hardware and 3.01 firmware works with this unit. It was easy to flash the unit to a DIR-615 firmware. Goal was to use some of the features you find on DIR series.

Emulator for TEW-652BRP
»www.trendnet.com/emulators/TEW-652BRP/

Emulator for DIR-615
»www.support.dlink.com/emulators/···ogin.htm

I am still testing I did like the Trendnet firmware I think that was a bit quicker in performance.
RoundSparrow

join:2009-01-08

said by taytong888 See Profile :

1) Why did you flash the firmware of DI-615 into that of Trendnet model, i.e. what are the features lacking in TEW-652 BRP as compared to DLink models?

2) TEW-652BRP looks exactly like TEW-632BRP. Are they the same?
I too have done this. The Trendnet firmware lacks some features and the D-Link DIR615 C1 firmware seems more stable.

The two Trendnets you note are also very similar. Details over on the OpenWRT thread: »forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=79983

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Got some wows here with this hardware and DIR-615 C1/3.01.

I did some testing to compare it against DIR-655.

Each Wireless N Laptop is set to WP2 encryption.

DIR-655 A3/1.11 276MHz 16MB/4MB
Shows wireless status as 160M for each laptop some show excellent 5 bars under SP3 link speed is 120mb/s for each one. Some have very good but the link speed is fro 65 to 120mb/s.

DIR-615 C1/3.01 400MHz 32MB/4MB(a.k.a name TEW-652BRP)
Shows wireless status as 130M for each laptop all show excellent 5 bars under SP3 link speed is 130-150mb/s
Once this does work performance over the wireless is quicker
than DIR-655, well to me it is wireless not wired now as it only has 10/100 ports
froggymike

join:2009-01-24
Pflugerville, TX
How was the flashing of the DIR firmware acheived? I bought a 652BRP and cant stand the lack of features.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

Go here
»www.savefile.com/files/1981625

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Moding the TEW-652BRP to DIR-615 C1 3.01


DIR-615 C1 3.01 on TEW-652BRP


Okay if you re-mod to a DIR-615 C1 3.01 and have issues you can re-mod back to TEW-652BRP.

Here's the change to DIR-615 C1 3.01
»www.savefile.com/files/1981625

Here's the recovery to TEW-652BRP (1.10.8)
»www.savefile.com/files/1981641

If you have issues like disconnections from DIR-615 firmware you might what to go back to the TEW-652BRP firmware. You can't use the latest, but you can use the above then flash a newest version later.

As of 1/26/09 Newegg has TEW-652BRP for $24.99 + free shipping limit 5 per order. Now everyone might not have issues re-modding or not.

OpenWRT has firmware for TEW-652BRP so you might want to go and check that one out also.

Good luck!
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

said by tipstir See Profile :

Moding the TEW-652BRP to DIR-615 C1 3.01

If you have issues like disconnections from DIR-615 firmware you might what to go back to the TEW-652BRP firmware.
Another possible option is to use Atheros driver from www.atheros.cz. Try 32-bit INF file for Atheros AR-9281 driver version 7.6.0.239 (156 KB, file name xp3264-7.6.0.239 whql.zip). Atheros drivers tend to be better and more stable than most stock DLink drivers, in my experience.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

Doesn't do me any good my Wireless N cards are all Trendnet they use Realtek chipset for wireless and I use Realtek chipset for Gig cards and the DIR-655 A3 router uses Realtek Gig chipset. Now with the DIR-655 A3 using Wireless N only these cards works perfect!
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

How do you identify the type and model number of the chipset use in a certain router, e.g. Trendnet or DLink? This is crucial in modding firmwares or making sure different brands work together.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

DIR-615 Hardware C1 same as TEW-652BRP 1.0R Hardware

400MHz
32MB of RAM
4MB of Flash (some talk it has 8MB)

You can open them up or go to the FCC site and check to see what's inside them. Remember to use the correct mod with your device otherwise you're brick the device making it not work anymore.
Redzapper

join:2007-07-01

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

If I flash my TEW-652BRP with the DIr-615 firmware, can I flash it back to the trendnet frimware if needed? If so, how?
Thanks.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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How to restore the firmware from DIR-615 C1/3.01 to TEW-652BRP

Here's the recovery to TEW-652BRP (1.10.8)
»www.savefile.com/files/1981641

I recommend you set your wired NIC to 10 half
Disable all software firewall, antivirus, spyware etc..
You don't want anything running in the background.
Use a Ethernet LAN from your desktop/laptop to the router

1. unplug the router
2. press the reset button for 40 seconds
3. keep pressing the reset button and plug in the power cord
4. Release the reset button
5. open the browser try default 192.168.0.1

This is the recovery mode just point it to your folder where you unzip the 1.10.8.bin for the router.

Now just update it.. If you get an error then redo it again.

Now after that wait 3 minutes then unplug the unit for 1 minute. Now plug in the power then press reset for 30 seconds. The status light should show up now. If that status light flashes with the WLAN then you're okay and welcome back to Trendnet firmware again.

Now go back to the browser set the it to 192.168.10.1

user name: admin
password: admin

L1Technician

join:2008-03-08
canada
The Trendnet firmware lacks some features and the D-Link DIR615 C1 firmware seems more stable.

I have to disagree with this.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT

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Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

I retract my first statement saying DIR-615 C1 3.01 was more stable and now have to agree with you there that it's not and that the DIR-655 is more stable and better throughput!

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Just to let you know this is working just find in Wireless Access N mode. I found the issue with disconnections I am trying it out now. I also going to run another test. After 4 hours no disconnections prior it wouldn't last not even hour before it would disconnect or drop internet access. Might be hope for this little Wireless N router.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Tested for all day yesterday not one disconnection or lost of the internet. Great! Now the real test is to use Auto 20/40Hz in a Mix mode of G/N.

This way all Wireless N would be 150mbps link speed (130M)
All Wireless G would be 54mbps link speed (30M)

Note: In this test the DIR-655 Wireless ANT is shutdown and disabled.
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Testing using Trendnet 1.0R/1.10.8

Hi,

I am confused by the note at the bottom of your post. Are you running the tests on Trendnet TEW-652BRP OR Dlink DIR-655?

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI

Re: Testing using Trendnet 1.0R/1.10.8

Yes I see the confusion.. It's the Trendnet TEW-652BRP v1.0R/1.10.8 is what I've been testing since yesterday. Now earlier today I was testing it only in the house for G/N.

G/N mix mode
Auto 20/40Hz
Channel 6 (default) I've tried other channels but this one ok

See next post of how it's positioned now..

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT

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About 9FT almost near the ceiling.. 4x wireless laptops
are connected:

3x N wireless laptops
1x G wireless laptop

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Well three wireless N laptops had problems keeping a connection. Both lost the connection and there wasn't anything that could be done to recover the connection. The router reported problems. Only the wireless g laptop had stayed connection. Oh well so I had to quickly had pulled the plug out of the TEW-652BRP for now. Turned back on the DIR-655 wireless G/N mix mode set the channel to auto and set the 20/40Hz to auto. So far that's working for now that's the only device providing wireless connection in the house and turned off my Buffalo High Power Turbo G.

On more note the only way this will work is you set everything to 20Hz but that reduces the speed of N to near G quality on the TEW. It's shame..
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Test Results Grade F

I suspect that Trendnet TEW-652BRP router can't keep connection because it's getting hot. I remember that both DLink router models DI-524 and DI-624 suffered heat problem and kept rebooting until I kept them upright. I even glued some RAM heatsinks onto the radio chip inside DI-524. My DI-624 is now relatively stable.

On another matter, when you use both wireless N and wireless G routers, do you use separate SSIDs and separate channels but keep the same passphrase, or what?

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Re: Test Results Grade F

Well when I first testing G with DIR-655 that was set to the same SSID I use in WHR-HP-G54 with DD-WRT works great no problems. Now since N was introduce with 1 then 2 more. Things changed.

Main router has it own SSID
Wireless Access points have their own SSID
So in other words yes along with there own channels. With G you can get away using the same channel. But with N you can't.

So you think the 652BRP is getting hot, I know it did using DIR-615 C1/1.01 firmware. But using 1.10.08 and 1.0.08 it doesn't. I just updated back to 1.10.08 without any mods. On the one N working but on another one it can't see the network places shares I have a tweak for that problem but I shouldn't have to use it though.

I was able to compare download youtube videos and watching a youtube video at the sametime. With G was okay but with N using 652BRP was smoother.

I don't know if you use Firefox but some videos on Youtube lag but I see there is a fix for that problem. That worked!

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
Well back with this until I can figure out what's wrong with the DIR-655 up and down wireless link problem. Started today. I only notice it when I turned back on the wireless. If the trendnet would work I could have to use. Well...

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
Found the original firmware and re flash it to 1.0.8 for now. See how that goes as 1.10.8 had issues with it.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Sure enough this was so hot touch and to open. Okay I've installed old heat sink from one of my older DLINK switches I don't use anymore fits perfect here.



Found in side was:

Atheros 9130
400Mhz NPU (Network Processing Unit)

Pointec
PT461616HG for RAM

I'll let this dry and test it out later on today..
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Added heatsink

Hi,

I opened my Trendnet TEW-632BRP N-Home Router today. Found 2 Atheros chips. The one where you put on the heatsink shows AR-9130 so it must be the CPU. A much smaller chip to the upper left corner has very tiny marking so I cannot read what it is but I guess it's the radio chip. The long silver rectangular piece of metal with lots of holes just below the heatsink in your pic must be the heatsink or heat exchanger for the whole router. The bottom face of the router above the circuitboard has vent holes. I found it's slightly warm to touch. For now I may not need to add any RAM heatsink as long as I keep the router standing up and the vent holes unblocked. The narrow sides of the router's plastic case might need holes drilled to vent off any excess heat, if it ever becomes necessary.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT

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No overheating not even warm.. I am able to open Outlook 2007 and Thumderbird without issues. More testing before I go 100%.
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

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Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

I am running Trendnet router TEW-632BRP as "modded" with DLink DIR-615 Rev. C1 firmware on a trial basis. No rebooting so far.


tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

That's good I've place mine back up near the ceiling. I am using Odyssey Access Client Manager/Security Client to control the wireless network PCMICA card instead of the Trendnet Wireless N Client Utility. That one seems buggy to me it has a hard time reconnecting and opens up under programs ran. Odyssey reads that my signal is Signal Strong -53dB on my main wireless laptop.

As for TEW-652BRP the only reason why I installed a heat sink was it was freezing and it was too hot to touch. Most of the heat is coming from the bottom of the unit. A USB Laptop cooling fan can take care of that. Right now its working better with heat sink.

Your model is different than mine. NPU and WNPU are the same but the RAM brand is different.
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

Hi,

1) I use Atheros Client Utility that comes with the Atheros driver for my DLink WNA-2330 PCMCIA adapter and the utility itself uses Odyssey. Check out www.atheros.cz for good Atheros drivers.

2) It's good to hear your Trendnet TEW-652BRP router is finally working well.


tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

Thanks now that I know that Odyssey works with the Atheros WNPU Chips then I can go ahead with a second one for one weak area. -60dBi
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

You are welcome. Let us know how your "fix" works as well as any procedure so that all members can benefit. I know AR-5008X series drivers in www.atheros.cz works for DLink DIR-625, 655,etc., Netgear, TPLink and Trendnet TEW-633GR. Should also works with TEW-632BRP and TEW-652BRP.


tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT

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Re: Using DIR-615 C1/3.01 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

Trendnet TEW-641PCMICA 32-bit seems to get very hot in my laptop, so I've ordered 300M TP-LINK TL-WN961N Wireless N Mini-PCI card (Atheros WNPU Chips) I'll replace the one I have now which is broadcom b/g afterburner.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Windows XP Pro SP3 + TCP Enhancements and Tipstir's Network Tweaks 2009
Wireless N Laptop using Trendnet TEW-641PCMCIA
Odyssey Access Client Manager 4.8 Virtual Tunnel an etc.
Strong Signal -52dB link speed 150mbps
Connected to: Trendnet TEW-652BRP 1.0R/1.10.8 as Wireless N Access Point Mode

taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Speakeasy Test Results..

Wow! Cool!

1) Could you show us how to get to the TCP enhancements and network tweaks 2009?

2) Which Atheros driver & version number did you use in order to have Odyssey Access Client Manager for Trendnet TEW-641 PCMCIA wireless adapter card?

3) Can you repeat the experiment using Trendnet TEW-652BRP with modified firmware from DLink DIR-615 Rev.C1?

Look forward to hearing from you soon. Keep up the good work!


tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Re: Speakeasy Test Results..

Well won't be doing the DIR-615 C1/3.01 firmware flip again. Just to much headaches with that one, plus the firmware seems buggy even for the DIR-615 firmware.

TCP Enhancements
»www.windowsreference.com/windows···s-limit/
Follow the link to the patcher this is for SP3 though. SP2 uses a files to replace 3 files. This seems faster with the patcher version for SP3.

Network Tweaks 2009 (Tipstir_nic_tweaks2009.exe) this one is by me..
»hosted.filefront.com/tipstir/

I don't have Atheros driver as yet that's on order. Trendnet TEW-641PC uses Realtek RTL8190 chipset rated 144mbps on non-N to 300mbps on N.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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Wow! Now it looks like the DIR-655 was lagging and I didn't even know until bringing it down today and putting up the DD-WRT v24 sp2 firmware wireless router in place until I can figure out what's going on with the DIR-655. With that firmware I am able to have the switch ports on the router set to full duplex instead of Auto Sense. I tested out P2P, Gig transfers between other Gig Rigs, TEW-652BRP was more responsive, everything was.. Speedtest on internet. Still have to do that later. Daytime speeds were about the same prior.

It feels like I just had pull out clog in the drain..

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI


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I got a problem again.. I going to have to do the 30/30/30 rule on this router. More like 40/40/40 reflash the firmware since there seem to be and issue with the Status Light flashing as I heard that might be the router things it's in the recovery mode causes the CPU to max out!

1. with power on press the reset button for 30 seconds
2. pressing reset button unplug for another 30 seconds
3. keep on pressing reset button plug in the power for 30 seconds then release
4. Now flash the unit

repeat steps 1 thru 3 after you flash the unit

See 6 replies to this post

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT

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Well I thought I had lost this one! No WLAN no wireless but kept at it and save the little wireless N router. Okay no more firmwares unless it's from Trendnet..

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI

Okay everything is fixed..It was the DIR-655 causing the issues. After one day everything working. Even in the weaker areas I get 120mbps in the strong area 150mbps. I am going to use the DIR-655 as another N wireless access point on second/attic floors.
taytong888

join:2005-06-20
Nepean, ON

Re: Using 1.10.08 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

Hi,

Could you be more specific? What in DIR-655 caused the problems? What problems? Which firmware you used to fix them?

Thanks!

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI

Re: Using 1.10.08 with Trendnet TEW-652BRP in N Mode

I don't know yet as I haven't taken it out to run some lab test on it. I have another wireless router in place using it with he latest DD-WRT v24 SP2. I with the firmware I can change the onboard switch ports from Auto to Full Duplex, Connected Connections are 330 more than the DIR-655 200. No lag or wait time. Anyway I'll let you all know how it goes with the DIR-655.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI



Going to put this back online for wireless N on 1 wireless N laptop I use instead of the other 2 wireless N. The above image is clear to see how I had installed the heat sink on the WNPU.

tipstir

join:2004-11-14
Enfield, CT
See the folks over DD-WRT is WIP on a firmware for this baby.. Can't wait..
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