What is difference: new plant & overbuilding in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21735473 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:54:13 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:54:13 EDT Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21750411 mystryfiostk : if verizon were to build a traditional copper pots network in at&t territory then it'd be considered an overbuild. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21750411 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:43:43 EDT Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21743639 anon : newplant means exactly that verizon is laying lines (fiber) where they have never had a network at all so new plant is brand new network for verizon only

overlay is laying (fiber) over existing verizon network (old copper lines) pots]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21743639 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:04:04 EDT Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21738229 vmanu2 : Thats right.I've seen guys digging trenchs and laying fiber about 2 blocks south of where I live.I've noticed little flags popping up on my block.So,it should'nt be much longer. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21738229 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:12:51 EDT Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21736353 hottboiinnc : RCN is considered an overbuilder because they over built a network. They overbuilt an area where Comcast or TWC or who ever else was the main provider previously.

Overbuilding and building out a new plant in an previously unserved area by one company would mean the same thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21736353 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:49:46 EDT Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21735875 ashworth : An overbuild usually refers to the incumbent carrier "overbuilding" THEIR lines or some company like RCN that does an overbuild on existing structure and/or plant. The 1st article you referred to is that VZ is "overbuilding" in Texas where U-Verse is offered which isn't really an overbuild... just competition.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21735875 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:20:34 EDT Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21735481 baineschile : I believe he means that they are laying fiber in an area they did not have copper (pots and dsl) before.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21735481 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:12:33 EDT What is difference: new plant & overbuilding http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21735473 TKJunkMail :
Last year Verizon began laying new plant (not overbuilding) in select AT&T territories
If Verizon is laying new plant in AT&T U-Verse area, isn't that overbuilding? A distinction was made. What is the difference?

This story says Verizon is overbuilding:
»www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.aspx···upport=1
Verizon has begun an overbuild of AT&T in the Dallas suburbs, extending its FiOS service northward from Plano into Frisco and Allen, areas where both AT&T (U-verse) and Time Warner Cable offer video services.

Based on a reading of the maps AT&T and Verizon have filed with the state PUC, the current overbuild appears to cover roughly 60,000 homes. Frisco counts 30,000 occupied homes and Allen 25,000 occupied homes.
Same here: »www.telecompetitor.com/node/671--
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