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Re: Nine years LOL. what competition? Cable already has the market and will be in the lead for a long time. FiOS is a joke when it comes to waiting to get a TV deal before building anything? Taking a year to get any customers online. and 9years to build out?
There is never any competition. Prices are the same and have only gone up. but remember the DC area is a Cox service area in some zones and their private, no need to worry about those investors like VZ has to do. |
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 jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA | Yeah, right. I keep hearing cable fans talking about how their ISP is improving speeds out of the kindness of their hearts with little or no regard to Verizon's looming FiOS service.
In a coupe of years FiOS will have tons of new customers in the DC area, just like they do in other areas where FiOS has been deployed. The FiOS service will be faster, more reliable, and of much better quality than anything competing with it. And just like everywhere else, FiOS will dominate the overall customer satisfaction ratings as well.
If FiOS was a joke, as you call it, than this would hardly be newsworthy. |
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| My cable company's speeds are high. They raised their speeds and are getting ready to again with DOCSIS 3.
It's not all about speed its about who's offering the better deal.
Most people will not change just because a new speed tier is being offered by VZ. It's about being happy with who you have. If people are happy they'll pay for what they already have. You'll have people that will sign up to get the deal of that time and when it ends and they can't get another they'll be back to who they started with to get a deal from them.
But you claim the same thing everyone else on here does. Everyone will move to FiOS in your area because nobody is happy with the cable company. Well let me tell you. You're full of shit! It's only being made available NOW because VZ is tired of sharing their lines for DSL. What's going to happen when they're tired of their FiOS network and want to focus on Cellco Partnership FiOS will be left to rot for a while while they work on that.
They only have the money because of Cellco and the ever raising rates with them and their "other taxes and fees" they tack on with the landline services.
You can't say that FiOS has a better satisfaction ratings. just because they rank well in one area doesn't mean they will in another.
You're another one of those assholes on here that treats VZ and their FiOS as God. Get over it. It's nothing special. And if it was VZ would have had it out YEARS AGO back instead of sitting around waiting for cable to take their damn customers with Digital Phone like cable will still due. Why VZ's FiOS is just as high and HIGHER than cable is. |
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JPLPremium
join:2007-04-04
Downingtown, PA
kudos:1 | said by hottboiinnc:My cable company's speeds are high. They raised their speeds and are getting ready to again with DOCSIS 3. It's not all about speed its about who's offering the better deal. Most people will not change just because a new speed tier is being offered by VZ. It's about being happy with who you have. If people are happy they'll pay for what they already have. You'll have people that will sign up to get the deal of that time and when it ends and they can't get another they'll be back to who they started with to get a deal from them. But you claim the same thing everyone else on here does. Everyone will move to FiOS in your area because nobody is happy with the cable company. Well let me tell you. You're full of shit! It's only being made available NOW because VZ is tired of sharing their lines for DSL. What's going to happen when they're tired of their FiOS network and want to focus on Cellco Partnership FiOS will be left to rot for a while while they work on that. They only have the money because of Cellco and the ever raising rates with them and their "other taxes and fees" they tack on with the landline services. You can't say that FiOS has a better satisfaction ratings. just because they rank well in one area doesn't mean they will in another. You're another one of those assholes on here that treats VZ and their FiOS as God. Get over it. It's nothing special. And if it was VZ would have had it out YEARS AGO back instead of sitting around waiting for cable to take their damn customers with Digital Phone like cable will still due. Why VZ's FiOS is just as high and HIGHER than cable is. We've been hearing about the promise of docsis 3 for a long time. We'll see who gets to DC first - FiOS or docsis 3. BTW, why do you think there's a big push by these cable companies to move to docsis 3? They doing that out of the kindness of their hearts, are they? I'm sure the fact that CV is stepping up things like IP and docsis 3 have NOTHING whatsoever to do with Verizon moving into NYC. Just like I'm sure Comcast just happens to be running tons of 'we have more fiber than verizon' ads in this area is just pure coincidence. And I'm sure it has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that comcast alone lost 147,000 video customers in the 3rd quarter of 08 while Verizon added nearly 1/4 million. I'm sure that's just all plain coincidence.
Finally, are you really blaming VERIZON for those TAXES on your landline service? Verizon has the ability to pass tax legislation now? Wow, I know they're a big company and all, I guess I just never understood HOW big  . |
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jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA | reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc:My cable company's speeds are high. They raised their speeds and are getting ready to again with DOCSIS 3. It's not all about speed its about who's offering the better deal. Most people will not change just because a new speed tier is being offered by VZ. It's about being happy with who you have. If people are happy they'll pay for what they already have. You'll have people that will sign up to get the deal of that time and when it ends and they can't get another they'll be back to who they started with to get a deal from them. But you claim the same thing everyone else on here does. Everyone will move to FiOS in your area because nobody is happy with the cable company. Well let me tell you. You're full of shit! It's only being made available NOW because VZ is tired of sharing their lines for DSL. What's going to happen when they're tired of their FiOS network and want to focus on Cellco Partnership FiOS will be left to rot for a while while they work on that. They only have the money because of Cellco and the ever raising rates with them and their "other taxes and fees" they tack on with the landline services. You can't say that FiOS has a better satisfaction ratings. just because they rank well in one area doesn't mean they will in another. You're another one of those assholes on here that treats VZ and their FiOS as God. Get over it. It's nothing special. And if it was VZ would have had it out YEARS AGO back instead of sitting around waiting for cable to take their damn customers with Digital Phone like cable will still due. Why VZ's FiOS is just as high and HIGHER than cable is. I complain about my FiOS service, albeit not nearly as much as I did with my Comcast service. Verizon subscribes less than 25% of the home/businesses that they pass. I never suggested that everyone would switch to FiOS because they all were dissatisfied with their current service. Many people are generally not happy with their service and their lack of choices, and they want something better. Just look at the hundreds of reviews on this site.
Verizon FiOS has an overall satisfaction rating that is consistently ranked higher than other services. This does not indicate that everyone, everywhere enjoys FiOS.
For me, in my area, Verizon FiOS is a much better deal. It is cheaper than what Comcast offers for a similar package, and I get a better quality product with FiOS. (like faster internet speeds, much better picture quality, and several more HD channels that I enjoy watching) I'm also not under any contract and have no bundled savings, yet I still pay less than I did with Comcast each month.
Can you make a similar comparison? Have you tried FiOS service? |
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DolganPremium
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Nine years will be nine years too late. By then cable will be ahead and them in DC and in NY and VZW won't even be able to stop them.
That is 9 yeas for a total rollout, not before they start selling/seeing ROI in that area. Verizon Wireless does not come into play when competing against the CableCos. Since you have no concept on how the Telcos are structured and where their profit streams come form let's break it down.
1] Verizon Wireless and AT&T Wireless have approx 160 million subscribers--that is about 50% of the total US population. Please tell what CableCo can compete with that. Furthermore, a majority of of revenues for both of these companies is derived from their wireless divisions.
2] Government contracts, Enterprise Business, Large Business, Circuits and etc. This is the RBOCs second largest stream of revenue. Once again the CableCos have made little if any inroads into this market.
3] Small Business and Residental--This is the only market where the Cable Cos are winning customers over the traditional Telecos. However, the offering of FIOS and U-Verse TV packages are meant to take the battle to the Cable Cos. 1.6 million TV subs out of 8 million homes passed equates to 22% market share in just a couple of years. That is what will give the Cable Cos the most trouble, in addition to the Quad play bundles these 2 companies can offer.
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But you claim the same thing everyone else on here does. Everyone will move to FiOS in your area because nobody is happy with the cable company. Well let me tell you. You're full of shit! It's only being made available NOW because VZ is tired of sharing their lines for DSL.
See point 3 above and educate yourself on what is happening in the Telecom world and why.
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You're another one of those assholes on here that treats VZ and their FiOS as God. Get over it. It's nothing special. And if it was VZ would have had it out YEARS AGO back instead of sitting around waiting for cable to take their damn customers with Digital Phone like cable will still due.
If you were not an uneducated troll you might have some understanding of the industry and how it works. Ignorance must be bliss. |
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I don't have VZ in my area And i seen speeds faster than what most other cable companies give. I get faster Internet speeds than ATT. Where the speeds in place before ATT was here with U-Verse YEP!
Is my cable company shaking? NOPE! Why they own the city and get what they want and being a local cable company in Ohio get what they want at the state level. They didnt bother fighting against the state law being passed here. Why they wanted it! Now they're one of the largest in Ohio for service and all locally owned.
I don't care to try FiOS why? I'm happy with the service i get. Why do I want to support a company that outsources over seas? why do I want to support a company that uses the lazy union techs in the area.
And Just because comcast lost that many does not mean they went to Digital or to VZ they could have went to Dish or Direc. You can't claim those same customers went to VZ for TV. Also like i said before Customers do the promo switch all the time. And you can't sit there and say they don't. In 6 months they'll be back to Comcast and then back to FiOS. |
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You can't say anything about the reviews on this site. Usually people only post their review here just because they can and never come back or the same people on here all the time. This board's reviews do not speak for everyone else.
And just because the reviews in general seem to be good doesn't mean they're that good. You only hear about the good and never the bad with VZ. Especially on this site.
The reviews for CellCo are suppose to go good too according ot JP Power, BUT TM was ranked the same and actually better. But who came out ahead? VZ why? HMMMMMMMM...Nobody well ever know. |
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I'm uneducated like you are a VZ/ATT troll.
You need to educate your self on CableCos and what they actually do.
Epsecially in Ohio.
VZ is shit! And your stats? back them up besides some Telco magazine or the "news on here". BusinessWeek doesn't count either.
And the 9years it takes VZ to out build Cox will be already ahead of them. thats IF VZ builds fully out like they say they will.
We all know how well they follow the contract. Or do we have to ask PA residents about that one. |
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JPLPremium
join:2007-04-04
Downingtown, PA
kudos:1 | reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc:I don't have VZ in my area And i seen speeds faster than what most other cable companies give. I get faster Internet speeds than ATT. Where the speeds in place before ATT was here with U-Verse YEP! Is my cable company shaking? NOPE! Why they own the city and get what they want and being a local cable company in Ohio get what they want at the state level. They didnt bother fighting against the state law being passed here. Why they wanted it! Now they're one of the largest in Ohio for service and all locally owned. I don't care to try FiOS why? I'm happy with the service i get. Why do I want to support a company that outsources over seas? why do I want to support a company that uses the lazy union techs in the area. And Just because comcast lost that many does not mean they went to Digital or to VZ they could have went to Dish or Direc. You can't claim those same customers went to VZ for TV. Also like i said before Customers do the promo switch all the time. And you can't sit there and say they don't. In 6 months they'll be back to Comcast and then back to FiOS. So, you don't have access to FiOS in your area, but you KNOW the field techs are lazy slobs? Wow, I wish I had that much insight. To be honest the Vz field techs (I had two installers, and a couple field techs out over the last 3 years) were, very honestly, the best I've seen. They knew their stuff. And because they get paid by the hour, not by the job, they actually have an incentive to make sure your install is done correctly. When I had DirecTV, they (for some reason) sent 2 installers to add a DVR. I asked them to just send me the DVR in the mail, and I would install it myself, but I was told I HAD to take the installation or the DVR would cost me.
They so over-booked the installer(s) that they missed my first appointment - the lead installer, to his credit, kept calling me throughout the night to let me know his status - by 11:30 that night he called one last time to tell me he couldn't make it. He was done for the night, and he had 2 appointments ahead of mine that he never got to. When he (and an assistant) did show up a few days later, they didn't even hang out long enough to know if the DVR worked.
You can slam the Vz techs all you want - but with my personal experience, the ones I've had, have been absolutely excellent.
As for where all those customers went - of the 'big boys' only 3 actually gained customers that quarter - Verizon, AT&T (which came in darn close to Verizon's numbers) and, a pretty distant third, DirecTV. All the rest - including Dish - lost customers. They're going somewhere. Between AT&T and Vz, nearly 1/2 million customers were added in 1 quarter - I'll leave it up to you to do the math.
I'm glad you're happy with your service, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with my post. The cable companies around here fear Verizon - and with good reason. The ads I see from companies like Comcast and CV range from the merely silly to outright lies (I heard one from, I think, CV claiming that you need a satellite dish to receive programming through FiOS). I know they love spending money on advertizing and all, but when they consistently focus on one company like that, it tells me something. |
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DolganPremium
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Please do tell me what major contracts the cable cos have in OH other than small businesses or residental. That is the only area of the market that the cable cos are currently winning. What cable co has the same wireless offerings as AT&T or Verizon? Same coverage maps? Please enlighten me as to what government contracts the cable cos have won from the RBOCs. Please tell me what major company {ie Wallmart, EJ Lilly, Toyota, Ford, and ad nauseum] that gets their circuits/telco needs provided by a cable co.
As to being a shill for AT&T or Verizon I think you need to search my posts as I equally bash Telcos and Cable Cos for their failings. There are plenty of people on this site with much more knowledge than I can hope to have about the industry, but as it is my chosen profession I take the time to read on the industry and its trends as my job depends upon it.
Admittedly cable has been making great inroads into the phone business, but it took several years for the base to develop. Given the same amount of time it will be interesting to see how much of the video business the telcos will gain. You will have to do your own research on the revenue streams. The primary divisions of Verizon are Verizon Wireless, Verizon Business, and Verizon Telecom. Look at the quarterly reports and you will see how much more revenue is generated by the wireless and business divisons versus the telecom divison. |
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said by hottboiinnc: FiOS is a joke when it comes to waiting to get a TV deal before building anything? Because FiOS is all about Verizon becoming a cable TV company. Internet and voice are incidental to that. |
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