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pflog
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Re: [TIVO] Signal Quality problems

Yeah was just thinking if 6 didn't cut it, I could go to 9 instead of 10...

Thanks!


keyboards

join:2001-02-14
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The difference between 9 dB and 10 dB of attenuation is:

-9 dB is 1/8 (0.125) the original signal strength
-10 dB is 1/10 (0.100) the original signal strength.

The world would little note nor long remember the difference
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JeepMatt
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Deblin,
Yes, with a Tivo, this can happen overnight.

One of the main reasons I sold mine. I couldn't stand the unpredictable pixellation.
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pflog
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Ugh. Every HD broadcast channel is fubar tonight. I just cancelled the recordings for The Office and Grey's Anatomy and set the SD channels to record.

JeepMatt See Profile do you know of any local vendors that would sell the attenuators? I REALLY want this fixed by the Eagles game Sunday...
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keyboards

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said by pflog:

... do you know of any local vendors that would sell the attenuators? I REALLY want this fixed by the Eagles game Sunday...
If you can't find them locally, you can always use some cascaded splitters as a temporary fix. They are marked for their loss (attenuation) to each port - the more ports the more attenuation. Not meant to be a permanent fix, but it might help for the game and be simple if you have any "spare" splitters around - GO EAGLES.
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HenryFarpolo
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said by pflog:

Ugh. Every HD broadcast channel is fubar tonight. I just cancelled the recordings for The Office and Grey's Anatomy and set the SD channels to record.

JeepMatt See Profile do you know of any local vendors that would sell the attenuators? I REALLY want this fixed by the Eagles game Sunday...
If you know where the Verizon garage is located go there around noon or close to 5PM and find a tech or supervisor and ask them for some.

The other alternative is to drive around until you find a Verizon truck. That is hit or miss, because you need to find someone from the TV crew.


toups

join:2001-11-02
Boxborough, MA

reply to keyboards

said by keyboards:

said by pflog:

... do you know of any local vendors that would sell the attenuators? I REALLY want this fixed by the Eagles game Sunday...
If you can't find them locally, you can always use some cascaded splitters as a temporary fix. They are marked for their loss (attenuation) to each port - the more ports the more attenuation. Not meant to be a permanent fix, but it might help for the game and be simple if you have any "spare" splitters around - GO EAGLES.
But you need a terminator on the "unused" port. Basically a terminator is a 75 ohm resistor that shorts the center the shield.


pflog
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Does night vs. day matter? Because I'm tuning a few HD channels that would normally have this problem (fox, cbs, etc) this morning and they're fine.
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JeepMatt
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Deb-
You should try and get a tech out. DE usually has a quick turnaround. I'd just say you're losing reception (and the eagles are playing this week) and see how fast someone could be out.

You may be able to get someone there by tomorrow.
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pflog
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They do Saturday tech calls? Sweet!

As I was writing this, I saw some pixelation on Fox, and I'm seeing it now on channel 514 now. So the issue IS still there, so disregard

Guess I know what I'm doing with my lunch break today! Need to find me some attenuator pads!



pflog
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I took a quick ride over to Middletown Electronics (says Radioshack, but I think it's its own entity now).

Anyway, do you know of any stores to try calling in the Newark area? Or I guess even Wilmington.

Thanks man!
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pflog
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reply to toups
Do they sell these terminators at somewhere like radio shack?



toups

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Couldn't find them in their catalog. Here is an example of what you are looking for »www.prosatellitesupply.com/f_terminator.htm

Some web reports state that you might be able to find them in some Radio Shack stores.



pflog
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So a splitter as a temporary solution to drop the signal will only work if all the unused (be it 1 for a 2:1, 3 for a 4:1 etc) connectors are terminated?

I'm in the same boat then...can't get these terminators locally, have to order online. Same with the attenuators. Sigh.

Guess I'll watch the Eagles game in SD.
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toups

join:2001-11-02
Boxborough, MA

Well, this is worth a try. Buy these 68 ohm resistors (75 ohms would be better but not available. Close enough to be an improvement.) »www.radioshack.com/product/index···=2062314
and insert one end of the wire from the resistor into the center hole for the (shorten as necessary). Wrap the other end of the resitor around the threaded portion.



pflog
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Ok, luckily they are able to send a FiOS tech today between now and 8pm!

So what do I tell the tech to make sure he does the right thing? If he sees the signal quality and SNR dropping (fluctuating), won't he be tempted to amplify the signal, which would just make things worse? How do I get across to this guy (if he hasn't any experience with the S3 Tivo or TivoHD) that it's an attenuation problem?
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pflog
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Well, she ran a full diagnostic and it comes up clean, but she's going out to get some attenuators... :/

She also said that the signal is NOT too hot...



JeepMatt
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Wait,
Are you telling me the tech was at your house within an hour of your call??

Damn - the DE staff rocks!

Wait, it's not Amy is it?



joe01880

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said by pflog:

Well, she ran a full diagnostic and it comes up clean, but she's going out to get some attenuators... :/

She also said that the signal is NOT too hot...
Im sure she is a good FiOS tech, but maybe not a so good Tivo tech.
Your FiOS signal may not be to hot for FiOS and or a FiOS STB but from what i have read Tivo's have a built in signal amplifier which could make the finale signal processed by the Tivo to hot and causing your problems..but i dont know nothing about this stuff.

Edit:

Something i am confused about is the talk about Tivo signal changing, as one person said going from 100 to 63 to 0, bouncing all over the place.
With FiOS signal being a constant (or pretty close) what signal is bouncing around?


pflog
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said by JeepMatt:

Wait,
Are you telling me the tech was at your house within an hour of your call??

Damn - the DE staff rocks!

Wait, it's not Amy is it?
Nope...withing 30 minutes!. I ran out to grab a coffee, and she called and I had to turn around to come back to meet her here! lol!

Ok, so she just left. She said my signal was "+3" when she got there, well within their spec (-5 to +5). She tried a 8 dB attenuator and her test "failed" at that point. It passed with a 6 dB attenuator, so I'm keeping that on there for now. The RS uncorrected number seems to have stabilized a bit.

She left me with two each of 3 dB and 6 dB attenuators and said to give her cellphone a ring if the problem's still occurring tonight in the cold weather.

I'll keep the 6dB on there for tonight and see if all the channels are ok tonight when it gets really cold.
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