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MightyPez

join:2002-05-01
Saint Paul, MN

reply to exocet_cm

Re: Boost Mobile

How so? Does Boost offer a service that somehow enables criminal behaviour beyond voice/text communication?


exocet_cm
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reply to MightyPez

Re: Boost Mobile

Easy to acquire, cheap to ditch, difficult, if not impossible, to track.

"A concern of police and security agencies world wide is that prepaid mobile services allow the user to be anonymous and therefore facilitate criminal or terrorist activities. As prepaid service is not so much sold as re-sold in bulk in the form of sealed cards, there is no technological means to determine the identity of a prepaid phone user."

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

said by exocet_cm:

Easy to acquire, cheap to ditch, difficult, if not impossible, to track.

"A concern of police and security agencies world wide is that prepaid mobile services allow the user to be anonymous and therefore facilitate criminal or terrorist activities. As prepaid service is not so much sold as re-sold in bulk in the form of sealed cards, there is no technological means to determine the identity of a prepaid phone user."
This would include every single carrier that has a prepaid service like Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile, Virgin and Boost (through Sprint), etc.

Why not ban cell phones since criminals can get others to buy them and do strawman purchases like they do for guns.


RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11

When prepaid cell phones are outlawed, only outlaws will have prepaid cell phones...



As for Boost, being tethered to Sprint's network means no service unless you are in a major market or within a few hundred yards of an Interstate. No thanks.


moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!!!!


MightyPez

join:2002-05-01
Saint Paul, MN

reply to exocet_cm
As others have said, how is this different from every single carrier out there that offers prepaid cellular service? Do you mention AT&T as being the criminals choice when threads about the iPhone come up?



badtrip
I heart the East Bay
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA

reply to exocet_cm

said by exocet_cm:

Easy to acquire, cheap to ditch, difficult, if not impossible, to track.
Who cares?

I swear LEOs and politicians are seeming more and more like paranoid schizophrenics every day that goes by. Everyone's a perp and were out to commit crime, especially if we want a cheap phone with no strings attached.


maseone

@comcast.net

reply to exocet_cm
Just to clear up the issue. This is not necessarily the case depending on the phone you use. Newer (5 yrs old and newer) phones have emergency 911 GPS at a minimum and full GPS is more and more common. Even before GPS, triangulation is pretty accurate. Your travel patterns are constantly tracked and permanently stored. It is much easier than you think to pin down who owns what phone.

But I guess nothing has changed, the less intelligent criminals are why prisons have always been big business since their inception.

m1



Geminimind
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA

reply to exocet_cm
Ooh sounds like a winner to me I like my privacy.



KrK
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said by exocet_cm:

Easy to acquire, cheap to ditch, difficult, if not impossible, to track.
Like Handguns on the street, you mean?
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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reply to exocet_cm
Hi exo!
What about non-criminals like myself?
I don't have a credit card and no credit in general.
They won't accept me for a contracted service(not that I would want to pay the high prices anyways).
I want/need a cell so all I have as an option is pre-paid.

Now, both Virgin Mobile *AND* AT&T have my name and address ... and their GPS can determine that I am at that same address - unless I go to the store or something.


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rec9140
Provoice just DO it

join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL

reply to RadioDoc

said by RadioDoc:
As for Boost, being tethered to Sprint's network means no service unless you are in a major market or within a few hundred yards of an Interstate. No thanks.

Boost uses the iDEN x-Nextel(nexhell) network which is totally different than the Sprint CDMA network.

The iDEN network has quite a bit more coverage and sometimes works alot of places that some CDMA carriers (including sprint) don't even in Podunk, USA.

Unfortunately until the rebanding is completed nexhell(boost) is one of the biggest RF polluters around.


Any one in public safety probably has nexhell/boost and the alphabets at the feds are HUGE users of the iDEN network as their primary and sometimes only communications.
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exocet_cm
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New Orleans, LA
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reply to dadkins
I... was... joking...

Edit: Oh yeah, Hi dadkins See Profile, long time no chat



meister_sd
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join:2006-01-29
La Mesa, CA
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reply to rec9140

said by rec9140:


The iDEN network has quite a bit more coverage and sometimes works alot of places that some CDMA carriers (including sprint) don't even in Podunk, USA.
I live in Southern California and I have access to T-Mobile, ATT (Cingular), Sprint and Nextel. Out here, we go out to the desert a lot and I've taken those carriers with me. I can tell you, Nextel beats all the others hands down. The absolute worst is ATT (They actually weren't too bad as Cingular). I haven't been able to test Verizon but hope to soon with a friend who uses them. This is the biggest reason most first responders use Nextel.

One thing to always remember, each market is different. My friend in New York likes Sprint, out here it used to sux - but it is better now. Tower build out is the biggest factor in any market. This is why when people ask me about cell phones from places other than San Diego - I tell them to talk to others local to them.


rec9140
Provoice just DO it

join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL

said by meister_sd:
This is the biggest reason most first responders use Nextel.

PTT, PTT, PTT.

Thats the drive behind the public safety use.

Its used as a huge "private channel" network to avoid the existing network which may not have encryption abilities.

iDEN also replaced almost all the SMR trunked systems that existed, although private SMR via LTR trunking is making a good comeback in many areas.

Sole reason I have a Boost is for the PTT, thats it. I would have to look up the phone number to tell you it. The DC/PTT/walkie talkie is what used 99.99999% Theres been a very few instances in some remote areas where I've had to use it to make a interconnect call in place of my VZW, but I could count that on one hand and have plenty left.

PTT is what drives iDEN use more than any thing.
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44402812
Hack The Planet
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join:2006-08-28
Plattsburgh, NY

reply to exocet_cm

said by exocet_cm:

Easy to acquire, cheap to ditch, difficult, if not impossible, to track.

"A concern of police and security agencies world wide is that prepaid mobile services allow the user to be anonymous and therefore facilitate criminal or terrorist activities. As prepaid service is not so much sold as re-sold in bulk in the form of sealed cards, there is no technological means to determine the identity of a prepaid phone user."
God forbid you have to act like a cop and do your job "investigating" instead of someone doing your work for you?

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