iansltx
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| reply to Eat Me
Re: Day late, dollar short
How much upload speed?
Also, Service Electric is $47/month for basic cable bundling, $57 with no bundling, slightly more expensive than Embarq.
Don't they also have caps on service? Embarq doesn't.
Maybe I'm envious...5 Mb DSL is the max here, and $57 per month would be for "12/896" that's really about 10/700 with Qwest. Even then interleave makes things seem even slower.
No, I'm not terribly fond of the fact that line attenuation makes 10 Mbit DSL unavailable for lots of people, but $55 per month for naked 10/896 internet? I'm paying $65 for 8/2 right now and, if 10/896 for $5 unbundled was offered here, in all likelihood I'd switch right over. |
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| said by iansltx  :How much upload speed? 896kbps, the max ADSL2+ will support. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Sorry, I meant upload speed on Service Electric. 896k overprovisioned is the max ADSL2+ will support, without reallocation of frequencies. But yeah, knew that...still, cool vs. 384, 512 or 768k elsewhere. |
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Eat Me
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Upload is 1M for the 10M tier.
For the 30M tier which I am on, it is 2M upload. They are capable of more, over 100M since it is DOCSIS3. How likely we are to see that remains to be seen.
I quote the $41.95 price (for 10M) because most people also subscribe to pay TV service in addition to broadband. I also use vonage so I don't have a pots phone nor do I want one.
Yes there are caps of 60G each way for the 10M tier and 100G each way for the 30M tier which is the only bad thing. Reliability is good. It has only gone out twice for me in 2 years and these weren't very long outages. |
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iansltx
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| You're paying 70c per GB?!? Yep, that's the amount for the 10/1 cable. Worse than Comcast, and on a 10/1 connection I couldn't live with it. $80 for 100 GB? Even more expensive...80 cents per gig. Meh, I'll take 10 Mbps unmetered DSL any day of the week; if I have a 30 Mbps connection I will use it more than 100 GB per month. 10 Mbps connection/60GB is the ame way.
Then again, suit yourself. Seems like you've got fast enough internet, but nothing terribly competitive. Yes, DOCSIS 3 can do 100+ Mbps on triple-channel, but you have to have the backbone for it. I figure that, with the per-gig costs, you could probably run a whole city off 100M ethernet/fiber even with the 30 Mbit tiers, since even the heavy users can't go beyond 100GB.
Yeah, I'll take Embarq, though people with different usage patterns than I (not streaming legal HD video, music, VPN, file uploads, backup, etc.) may be fine with a capped connection like that. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to Eat Me
Whoops, 35 cents and 40 cents per GB, assuming you use symmetric. Not as horrible, but you can push 100+ GB over any of Embarq's connections and they won't ocmplain. Each wa, even. |
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Eat Me
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said by iansltx :You're paying 70c per GB?!? Yep, that's the amount for the 10/1 cable. Worse than Comcast, and on a 10/1 connection I couldn't live with it. $80 for 100 GB? Even more expensive...80 cents per gig. Meh, I'll take 10 Mbps unmetered DSL any day of the week; if I have a 30 Mbps connection I will use it more than 100 GB per month. 10 Mbps connection/60GB is the ame way. Then again, suit yourself. Seems like you've got fast enough internet, but nothing terribly competitive. Yes, DOCSIS 3 can do 100+ Mbps on triple-channel, but you have to have the backbone for it. I figure that, with the per-gig costs, you could probably run a whole city off 100M ethernet/fiber even with the 30 Mbit tiers, since even the heavy users can't go beyond 100GB. Yeah, I'll take Embarq, though people with different usage patterns than I (not streaming legal HD video, music, VPN, file uploads, backup, etc.) may be fine with a capped connection like that. I am not exactly an average user. I do actually stream a lot of video. Maybe if Netflix didn't have such a piss poor HD selection I'd use more and probably hit my 100GB cap. My usage hasn't gone over 100GB and I use slingbox and download TiVocasts a lot. The cost per GB after the cap is $1. A few bucks a month extra isn't going to hurt me, even if I do go over, which is probably never.
Furthermore with a 6 meg connection, many people haven't been able to stream Netflix in HD. With the 30 meg connection I am pretty much guaranteed to stream HD because I have a lot of headroom. On the worst days my connection barely goes below 25 megs. On most days it is at 27-29 megs.
Speed is more important to me than caps, and Embarq's offering to me in the speed department has been piss poor. Verizon in other parts of the state is offering 50/20 FiOS. Copper twisted pair is so last century.
This is another reason I am not getting Embarq DSL. Service Electric has upgraded their headend and cable plant to offer DOCSIS3. Embarq is only offering ADSL2 and is dragging its feet on fiber to the home, throwing out a few bones but not really doing anything. The last thing I heard is that they're up for sale to CenturyTel, and from what I gather, this won't mean fiber to the home anytime soon.
So I think I know who has the future in mind, and who does not, and Embarq does not. |
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iansltx
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| CenturyTel has 15 Mbp FTTH.
Also, as far as HD streaming goes, I'm pretty sure Netflix stuff is 5 Mbps or thereabouts. Ill have to try later on and count the bits going by, but I can absolutely do HD over my 8/2 connection.
As to reliability on Embarq, I have family in NC, who use Embarq. On holidays they have ping spikes, otherwise the connection is rock solid. Smokepings? A perfectly flat line. |
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Eat Me
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| said by iansltx :CenturyTel has 15 Mbp FTTH.
Embarq also has a limited trial in Las Vegas from what I heard. But they certainly aren't as aggressive as Verizon is with FiOS. When they bring fiber to the home in Northwest NJ, I may take them up on it. But for now? I'm not going backwards in speed to ADSL2. quote:
Also, as far as HD streaming goes, I'm pretty sure Netflix stuff is 5 Mbps or thereabouts. Ill have to try later on and count the bits going by, but I can absolutely do HD over my 8/2 connection.
I can only get 5 meg service here. It may stream HD sometimes, but not all the time. quote:
As to reliability on Embarq, I have family in NC, who use Embarq. On holidays they have ping spikes, otherwise the connection is rock solid. Smokepings? A perfectly flat line.
I have to try smokepings here but the internet service has so far only gone out twice that I noticed. |
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iansltx
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| Take a look at a smokeping. Cable tends to be +/- 10 ms from what I can tell. Comcast here in CO seems a little more reliable than TWC/RR in Fredericksburg TX as far as I can see.
But the variance on Embarq, usually less than 1ms...rock solid. Not that it impacts connection quality a ton, but it's funny that the phone company's internet service is the best one for VoIP. |
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